[SFoL] SFoL 58: Virtuous II — Return of the Fallen — FINALE -- Day 5 (4/16): Imperial Triumph — The Hand of Byzantium, The Fool, and The Strigoi Win!

Vote Count

Votee Voted by Votes
SirDerpsAlot Ami, CRichard564 2/8
sulit Arete, darth_tabor 2/8
Possessed SirDerpsAlot, Wazza 2/8
Wazza Napoleon 1/8
CRichard564 Possessed 1/8
darth_tabor Vulgard, Frostwolf103 2/8
Arete Amelia 1/8
Currently Abstaining Italy, sulit, EVO, Chloe 4

ping me if i miss any votes, vcbot katze is rusty

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I feel like I made you guys wolfread Arete for the wrong reasons and it frightens me. However, you all appear to be villagers to me, so I suppose it’s a good thing in some form.

The Village

Vulgard
Amelia
Frostwolf
Chloe
Possessed
EVO
Ami

Napoleon – Only because their posts have left less of an imprint of my mind, but they are still V to me as of right now.

The Null Zone

Derps – I personally think this is a villager, but I agree that their wifom (or outright denial to protect Marshal) is a bad look.
Wazza – I don’t really think his behavior around Possessed clears him, but at the same time, I think Possessed may be right. Most likely a villager, I just have reservations.
CRichard564 – This slot still has neutral killer equity to me. I would say “jail it,” but that involves the Duke not killing Sulit and that’s bad. Urgh.
Italy – What do I even say about this slot? Really basic thoughts all game, thoughts which don’t help me solve this slot’s alignment. Entirely >rand to me. Would not be surprised if it were a wolf.

The Wolves

Arete – ? I’m not sure. Placeholder, I suppose. Full conclusion still pending. Could still be a villager. Would not lynch today. I’m just getting paranoia.
Darth – I think the case against them is highly convincing.

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i think we’re required to lynch tabor before D2 due to some holy intervention shit but i won’t vote yet

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not-evil-but-also-not-that-good laugh

No way a villager messes up like this and then doesn’t react to the push on her when she comes back into the thread after messing up. Sulit knows she’s outed.

I did not include Sulit in my readlist, because she is an outed wolf and we all know it.

I don’t think there’s a single wolf in there as of day 2. Never lynching there.

I can be swayed here, especially on Richard and Italy.

I am not prepared to lynch Arete today. I still think they might be a villager. As for Darth, I’m more than ready to lynch her.

I would be a hilariously terrible convert option because scum wouldn’t know for sure if a healer spawned and I was literally bleeding

Seeing a trend of Vul pushing me bc I’m an easy target

Before that blows up, it’s a joke

There are some fair points that I will refute as well as some perspective changes of mine based on what’s happened in the thread since I was last on

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I’ve never seen a rand without a healer in setups which did have healers. I think it’s a fair assumption that we have at least one.

Also, I anticipate I’m going to get strongmanned today if I’m correct about anything. The thread has kind of accepted me as a villager and that makes me believe the wolves have resigned themselves to nightkilling my slot. Would be nice to have a watcher on me tonight.

Anyway.

Not this game. :< I feel offended. Not really. It’s a game. A game of mafia.

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Keep this in mind vul. The hand of byzantium does not start with a strongman

I feel like this only makes sense if you preflip sulit as exactly Rebel and maybe as some other neut

like if sulit is groupscum it doesn’t hold

and right now we don’t know if sulit is groupscum

I guess maybe it could hold in groupscum!sulit worlds if we assume that sulit is, like, the scum killer and Darth wants to keep up KPN?

the thing I remember Darth doing the time I played with wolf!her is saying she scumread her teammates but then voting to save them over people she supposedly scumread less so at the very least I don’t think she and sulit are partnered

Why? If sulit is groupscum, Darth is bussing her right there or possibly fishing for towncred as a neutral. I don’t see why sulit being groupscum clears Darth in any way.

They do have ways to yeet me, though, depending on their converts. It may still be a Blue Dragon game, too, I’m just strongly suspecting a HoB game based on what happened.

I also suspect a hand of byzantium game

I read this post as ‘now (today) rather than later (tonight)’ but I guess I could be wrong

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welcome to 90 percent of games on this forum

I agree mostly with Vul’s reads here, apart from Possessed being town (i have him as null), but from what I understand that is because I don’t have the context for Possessed’s meta :confused:

I read it the same way, and therein lies the problem. Why waste the lynch here if you’re a villager? Why encourage cutting off possibilities?

I may be extrapolating too much from Darth’s push there, but it smells.

the Arbiter tinfoil makes no sense because if I were Arbiter faking Aristo I would bounty someone at least slightly villagery or slightly solvey and be like ‘they were null to me’ rather than the person who’s literally done nothing but meme

also I slipped as not knowing how Arbiter works or that they could choose non-Unseen abilities but technically that could have been faked