[SFoL] SFoL 58: Virtuous II — Return of the Fallen — FINALE -- Day 5 (4/16): Imperial Triumph — The Hand of Byzantium, The Fool, and The Strigoi Win!

[Arete]

not a viable team

one of Nappy/Italy has to be real

[Chloe]

I’m 99.9% sure one of Nappy/Italy is lying

[Chloe]

I completely believe that one of them of lying. Also, nappy is saying that you are a viable jail target after we established that you can’t be starting scum. Or converted for that matter

[Napoleon]

Chloe/Italy/Arete.

Wazza-Arete groupscum doesn’t resonate too well with me tbf

[Chloe]

What do you think I am if scum. What do you think Arete is if scum.

[Napoleon]

I’ve already explained this so I’ll just quote my posts hold on.

[Napoleon]

@Napoleon

We have like two near pseudo-confirmed wolves here. Arete is a shady Aristo claim and I’m increasingly sure that Frost is NK here, their progression makes little to no sense and they really do seem concerned about groupscum here. Their night action makes very little sense to someone who was outted as the only healer in game, and has repeatedly shaded Arete, hell-bent on closing in on neut scum and just casually saying “Oh Vulgard, I know you can find the NK, I trust you”.

We need NK out and also, in no way or form is Arete confirmed not convert, much less scum. Chloe or Italy needs to have a wolf here as well. In fact, Chloe/Italy/Frost, if you want to look at probability alone, hits scum 67% of the time.

Honestly, Arete is probably Visionary based on how they have been acting and I think them failing a N1 convert on sulit could be very plausible here. It’s quite easy, their plan could either be a lynch on a convert or a lynch on a non-convertable, and they happened to hit the latter here.

Also I would like to mention Arete/Nappy scumteam makes almost no sense, with my continuous shade on their claim from D1-D3. Honestly I think Arete is just trying to form an association with me by openwolfing here.

Honestly I think the safest option would be to just lynch Frost and execute Arete in jail. This way there are no new converts, though King would need to guard Vulgard here in case Heroine decides to go for their Call to Arms ability.

Actually, Chloe/Italy probably flips Heroine at this point and I would definitely like to find out who it is. They would be a better jail tbh (with no execute) as we could test for kills and gather more information.

@Vulgard Im pretty sure you have to jail Chloe/Italy/Arete here and lynch Frost. It’s harder to win with 2 KPN., you are right about that.

@Napoleon

I Think Heroine is probably in Arete/Italy/Chloe btw … Frost actually could be in there but they seem more NKish to me

@Napoleon

Also I think Arete looks like Visionary or convert at this point… if they failed a convert on sulit n1 it makes more sense

Here ya go.

Right now, Arete is probably most likely Visionary, though they could be Heroine as scum gets shared feedback. However, their play seems to be more deepwolfish.

[Chloe]

Aight so you think Arete faked bled, and said they would be bountying yet attempted to convert someone that they scumread d1. Arete would not have attempted to convert sulit IMO.

I’m fine with being jailed, gives me a day to live and not use Piety. But I could either Defend someone I townread tonight, or attack two people I scumread. I think it would be a waste of a jail but I’m fine with it if I’m not executed

[Chloe]

also i know its not called Defend but fuck writing that ability name

[Chloe]

Also no, im not trying to whiteknight arete. I’m not completely against the idea of them being scum - I just see it as unlikely. I’m just explaining why I think you could be incorrect about that read

[Chloe]

i need to sleep on a lot of things tonight

[Napoleon]

@Chloe

Aight so you think Arete faked bled, and said they would be bountying yet attempted to convert someone that they scumread d1. Arete would not have attempted to convert sulit IMO.

I’m fine with being jailed, gives me a day to live and not use Piety. But I could either Defend someone I townread tonight, or attack two people I scumread. I think it would be a waste of a jail but I’m fine with it if I’m not executed

Arete is confirmed scum lol. They got caught on the gossip

[Chloe]

Wait what

[Napoleon]

Claimed Frost was investigated and this is not possible.

[Arete]

@N.1

correct. If an aristocrat targeted a person that the Visionary made themselves to be appear visiting on the same night that the Visionary uses “Insight of the Worthy”, they would get an invest result from that.

@N.1

a visi would NOT need to actually visit frost to be detectable by gossip when they use insight of the worthy, clarification. just appear to do so as per the false visit

@N.1

if a starting visionary or arbiter does not submit false visits during the night phase, they are defaulted to their actual visits, btw.

@Napoleon

[Napoleon]

oh

[Napoleon]

Well good night. Arete could still be a visionary ig but I will have to reevaluate.

[Napoleon]

wait when is EoD?

[Chloe]

17ish hrs

[Napoleon]

Also explain one more thing. I don’t see how Arete can’t be starting scum