[SFoL] SFoL 58: Virtuous II — Return of the Fallen — FINALE -- Day 5 (4/16): Imperial Triumph — The Hand of Byzantium, The Fool, and The Strigoi Win!

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#7924

You could have lost if HoB threw by lynching Vulgard and Ami into an NK win @Arete

#7925

at least i think that’s true

#7926

As soon as they lynched the first one of them on D5 the game would have autoresolved into an NK win

And I bit the NK N4 so a Chloe/EVO endgame scenario would still have been a win

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#7927

I don’t remember

I scumread EVO on D1 but I don’t actually remember why

also Amelia

you win some you lose some :upside_down_face:

#7928

wow, ignore me then

#7929

Only way you could have lost is if multiple different people got themselves modkilled to override Arbiter’s night immunity

#7930

Basically

#7931

Or was it still impossible for you to lose in this way
@Arete

#7932

I mean I’m talking about D5 not D4

when the sun rose on D5 I couldn’t lose

#7933

No i was considering both D4 and D5

#7934

arete loses if arete gets modkilled :^)

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#7935

Who would have needed to get themselves modkilled Day 4 to cause you to lose? @Arete

#7936

I can lose on D4, at the very least if they lynch me and anyone shoots Vul

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#7937

cool haha

#7938

I’m still mad that Possessed has no logs :frowning:

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#7939

I know it’s been said already but, from the perspective of Unseen, the only possible way for us to have won that scenario relied on two things:

  • Vul not being converted
  • EVO not being Demon (which was 99% known - we just couldn’t do shit about it and had to have that 1% sliver of hope)

So, from this perspective, EVO was not the right lynch.

Although he ended up being scum, Vul was absolutely correct that the best plan of action was for me not to kill anyone that night - as it would force an NK win. In no world would I have attempted to kill Vul, because assuming he is still Unseen is the only way we have a chance of winning, and also, even if I tried to, he was healed by Arete.
The only thing that could have happened differently in that scenario is if Vul outted as convet, and EVO outted a NK, I would have realized there is no possible path to victory as Amelia and CRich bleed out, and I die that night to NK. But I do think that in the off-chance that EVO outted and I understood that Vul was Warden, I would have absolutely agreed to attack Geyde to force an NK win.

basically what im saying is that even though we lost, i stand behind my decision on that final night. The only thing that would have changed that decision is if EVO just fuckin outted

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#7940

ALSO, Vul MVP for not outting as convert even though he could have… because I hella woulda helped EVO

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#7941

He initially did but then immediately backpedaled incredibly

#7942

Wait where :eyes:

#7943

Did he? I thought he was still playing it off as thinking it was BD game, when Arete outted