Hunting for targets exposes them to the MM, and merc can’t prevent conversions on them, therefore Mm converts them and gets the merc and the target on their side
So preferably don’t do that
I’m planning on outing them if someone links or allies me.
I don’t want to out them in the thread as they will be prime convert targets if I do.
I can also point out when I began pushing them into the towncore in my ISO, so yeah.
That’s a good point Alice. If both your targets happen to be who I think are good N2 conversion targets, then there is no point outing them here in day chat.
Well there is a thing called giving benefit of the doubt unless there is information showing she isn’t a Merc.
So I was going to make a new readslist and elaborate on the harder ones but this became very long and chatter stopped so im going to try to revive it. Additionally, this was meant to be posted with other reads, so references to Wazza reads or whatever will probably come later. For now, I bring you, Geyde
This is a harder read, due to me agreeing with a lot of points and arguing with others. Totally im not sure, so this will stay in the null. I’d think doing an ISO would help the read but it didn’t. I’d like thoughts, if anybody reads through it.
Guide to Geyde by TheBlueElixir
Geyde
This was really early, but he clears someone i’d like to see a bit more content from.
Im going to keep these d1 reads in my pocket if he flips scum, I agree with marshal(and agreed on mode ngl)
I like getting reads from others, townie(and easy, granted) move
I fully agree with this, townie wouldn’t like being called either alignment but scum wouldn’t have a problem with it. This bit will be held against Wazza later.
Reads, I think Italy was more sus then you said and I agree with the Alice read
I don’t think here you actually state whether this is a scum or townlean. You seem to push a bit in both directions. But granted with just this info, I’d townread Wazza. I don’t townread Wazza. Not seriously pushing and waiting for redpeeks while being reactive/RTing isn’t exactly giving an answer for Wazza and it’s not really for what you quoted that i scumlean Wazza.
He says something like this alot, but I’m going to quote this once. I liked this and at first glance it seemed reasonable. Now you settle more quarrels in the quotes to come but if there is mech confusion there should be mech discussion. Otherwise, yes, it is too easy to blend in as scum in mech discussions.
Him keeping the peace, townie(non chaotic) move
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-sfol-60-randomizer-day-2-17-18-a-minor-seth-back/81476/2412?u=theblueelixir
Despite this being very easy to say as scum, scum rarely do. However, asking someone else to help him is something a scum would add, because they wouldn’t want to be the person that solves their own mystery. Additionally, I’m not exactly sure why Geyde thought there was anything unknown at all at that time, or even now.
This is something I’m yet to see considered - if scum know they didn’t bleed and nobody claims it scum knows it’s fake. Sure, nk COULD have bleed but even this is a one time use so it’s still quite reliable that unclaimed non-unseen bleeds are fake. So if you were in Scum shoes, you have someone faking bleed, what is bd NOT going to think? That their on their way to be converted. You probably wouldn’t expect a scout on a bleeding target, for certain. Thats why I think they tried to convert Alice, anyway.
Agree, especially with the second one I thought I’d be interrogated more as I came in
He tries to change topics multiple time but i never seem to find what he intends to change the conversation into.
Italy is scumread by most but I dont see anywhere you specifically called them out as your most scumread. If closest you get is above mentioning that the slot ‘just kind of exists’
I liked Vulgard’s post about Sog’s confidence too, just not Sog’s reaction to it.
Nice spot, realistically we want Kyo out before Alice if either. I think arete mentioned this.
Bit of hypocrisy, the second post is a reply to Possessed where Possessed says he doesn’t just use reads.
Me agreeing
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-sfol-60-randomizer-day-2-17-18-a-minor-seth-back/81476/2860?u=theblueelixir
This is legit what you said earlier then you voted Italy then you went back to this. I highly despise this part.
Despite pressure(and a lot of it) Sogman kept his confidence through d2, even if his reads and such were floppy and i scumlean him for it.
I liked this but discussing with scum what scum might do can only make them avoid doing it, so in hindsight this is a bad idea
Easy excuse from a king that merits their own ISO on Arete’s part. For Geyde’s part, he says scum might want a null read convert. Nobody wants a nullread convert, come on. I don’t like this post. Also Sog, at least by me, was distinctly not a townread or even a lean, they were way too quiet and didn’t contribute nearly enough. He does mention this is implausible but the suggestion now exists.
Geyde thinking he’d be a bad convert. Something to not forget.
I fully agree. This is why its so hard to get a good read on him, isnt it? I’m flopping back and forth with each quote.
So overall im still not sure what to say, he’s a strong player and I find my ideas conflicting with his probably a bit to often. Thoughts?
Does anyone know how to fix this? does it have to not be in one of those summary things?
Its that part from the last quote but with quotes actually inside of it
Geyde
This was really early, but he clears someone i’d like to see a bit more content from.
Im going to keep these d1 reads in my pocket if he flips scum, I agree with marshal(and agreed on mode ngl)
I like getting reads from others, townie(and easy, granted) move
I fully agree with this, townie wouldn’t like being called either alignment but scum wouldn’t have a problem with it. This bit will be held against Wazza later.
Reads, I think Italy was more sus then you said and I agree with the Alice read
I don’t think here you actually state whether this is a scum or townlean. You seem to push a bit in both directions. But granted with just this info, I’d townread Wazza. I don’t townread Wazza. Not seriously pushing and waiting for redpeeks while being reactive/RTing isn’t exactly giving an answer for Wazza and it’s not really for what you quoted that i scumlean Wazza.
He says something like this alot, but I’m going to quote this once. I liked this and at first glance it seemed reasonable. Now you settle more quarrels in the quotes to come but if there is mech confusion there should be mech discussion. Otherwise, yes, it is too easy to blend in as scum in mech discussions.
Him keeping the peace, townie(non chaotic) move
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-sfol-60-randomizer-day-2-17-18-a-minor-seth-back/81476/2412?u=theblueelixir
Despite this being very easy to say as scum, scum rarely do. However, asking someone else to help him is something a scum would add, because they wouldn’t want to be the person that solves their own mystery. Additionally, I’m not exactly sure why Geyde thought there was anything unknown at all at that time, or even now.
This is something I’m yet to see considered - if scum know they didn’t bleed and nobody claims it scum knows it’s fake. Sure, nk COULD have bleed but even this is a one time use so it’s still quite reliable that unclaimed non-unseen bleeds are fake. So if you were in Scum shoes, you have someone faking bleed, what is bd NOT going to think? That their on their way to be converted. You probably wouldn’t expect a scout on a bleeding target, for certain. Thats why I think they tried to convert Alice, anyway.
Agree, especially with the second one I thought I’d be interrogated more as I came in
He tries to change topics multiple time but i never seem to find what he intends to change the conversation into.
Italy is scumread by most but I dont see anywhere you specifically called them out as your most scumread. If closest you get is above mentioning that the slot ‘just kind of exists’
I liked Vulgard’s post about Sog’s confidence too, just not Sog’s reaction to it.
Nice spot, realistically we want Kyo out before Alice if either. I think arete mentioned this.
Bit of hypocrisy, the second post is a reply to Possessed where Possessed says he doesn’t just use reads.
Me agreeing
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-sfol-60-randomizer-day-2-17-18-a-minor-seth-back/81476/2860?u=theblueelixir
This is legit what you said earlier then you voted Italy then you went back to this. I highly despise this part.
Despite pressure(and a lot of it) Sogman kept his confidence through d2, even if his reads and such were floppy and i scumlean him for it.
I liked this but discussing with scum what scum might do can only make them avoid doing it, so in hindsight this is a bad idea
Easy excuse from a king that merits their own ISO on Arete’s part. For Geyde’s part, he says scum might want a null read convert. Nobody wants a nullread convert, come on. I don’t like this post. Also Sog, at least by me, was distinctly not a townread or even a lean, they were way too quiet and didn’t contribute nearly enough. He does mention this is implausible but the suggestion now exists.
Geyde thinking he’d be a bad convert. Something to not forget.
I fully agree. This is why its so hard to get a good read on him, isnt it? I’m flopping back and forth with each quote. I might’ve gotten a quote wrong here or there forgive me for that. I should also mention Im scumreading a lot more then im townreading people rn and I don’t like that, so ill give the benefit of the doubt.
Time to sleep now when I wake up I hope this was discussed at least to some extent