[SFoL] SFoL 63 - Triple Threat: Virtuous - Game Over (4/26) - Blue Dragon (evils) win!

[Wazza]

dw I already let him pocket me.

[Centuries]

I think Ash reads are ok tier but can be faked seeing how most of them are 4 quotes long o_O

I’m fine with TLing ash aorn and re-eval later

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

you could argue “remove derps” because he’s been saying he’s going to shoot my townreads and that’s tantamount to openwolfing
but yeah

i’m honestly tired of townreading people for idiocy and being correct 90% of the time
can you play more smart as villager please

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

i’m honestly tired of townreading people for idiocy and being correct 90% of the time

when i make this type of read it’s correct 90% of the time historically and it really shouldn’t be

[Wazza]

@Vulgard

can you play more smart as villager please

Despite not being directed towards me, I’m feeling called out.

[Vulgard]

@Wazza

dw I already let him pocket me.

this is weird, because i have just checked your iso and the only time you mentioned ash was when you referred to his wall of text, which you supposedly “read” but there was no visible conclusion there at the time

now you say he’s pocketing you? i don’t really understand this progression, feels out of nowhere

[Wazza]

It was a joke, Vulgard.

I’ve been making jokes about pockets this entire game.

[Moleland]

@Alice

…it’s a multiball.

Why even post this? Fair chance that Insanity’s BD/HoB and Sulit or Whysper may be the other faction, and there’s also the King that’s a LW.

I don’t scumread Insanity

[Italy]

to be fair that is how you read several people

[Moleland]

This post was written by a villager

[Moleland]

Because that was 24 hours ago

[Moleland]

That’s a good point, Catarshal did that on me In Joat (that was to set up a later bus)

[Centuries]

Frost’s ISO is really like empty

Most of his early posts is him talking about nothing with SDA

@Frostwolf103

Nice pocketing, but I was thinking you’re trying to look town. Unfortunately for you, I have zero tolerance this time.

@Frostwolf103

I am not going to believe that not knowing is AI either.

@Frostwolf103

Why shouldn’t be the case? I have mentioned in my first post in glitchy font that I make it right clear about exterminating the scum factions.

It goes on how much I will tunnel

@Frostwolf103

Yada yada, why are you trying to lolcat when it’s about alignments and shit, are you trying to deflect the acknowledgement that neuts do exist for some reason when it’s clearly not?

“Oh sorry sir, I didn’t read OP and shit, I just signed in to play the game and I am going to say that this player is acting like neutral killer–oh oops never mind, forgot what I said”

@Frostwolf103

Why are you trying to be defensive with alignments when I made it clear I dont read you for meta.

Like none of this has any conclusion?

@Frostwolf103

I am in same page about TBE

That’s the first really voiced TR of his and it’s really like, weak tbh

@Frostwolf103

Either Intensify is groupscum and knows Vul is RTing so he wouldn’t fall for it and justify with his reasoning of his vote on Vulgard although as Seth explained himself, I dont think it’s coming from groupscum

Honestly this bad thinking (not thinking about multiball) is likelier to come from town but… eh. I’m not really willing to clear this slot from a dumb slip

@Frostwolf103

Hmm I can see why Surge is saying Intensify is reacting the same way as your post, you dont fully believe it, although it’s lacking of explanation in that post.

Like, is it put sarcastically you like it?

I think him just talking with his TR is slgihtly good looks but

He’s not really trying to scumhunt or to create a Towncore/reading anyone as town

@Frostwolf103

Aha, but I am making reads now.

Are you really now

@Frostwolf103

To me, I find it more suspicious that plenty of players knew something is off with Vul being bled within first hour as some “Oh yeah I am not going to fall for that”

Actually ok thinking

@Frostwolf103

@EliThePsycho

i have to catch up with this mess

F
also the vote shenanigans are making me scared for no reason whatsoever

He doesnt want to be seen as sheep, hmm.

@EliThePsycho

i’d have to agree with this

same with N’s

Not exactly buying TBE’s wallpost about improving townplay, which I know I have seen it before and not helping, at least this can be finished faster while able to pick up the important points behind the wallpost

@EliThePsycho

nice

also is soulshade like actually following up with joke to death tunnel leafia?
it seems like it tbh

Calling TBE’s vote on SDA nice, although I recall he’s votespamming a lot or something. I dont pay attention on soulshade DTing Leafia really, why mention that is not related to TBE’s vote?

@EliThePsycho

exactly

but without the town part
they’re null.

So he nullread Leafia in this case?

@EliThePsycho

hol up

lolclaim reaction.

@EliThePsycho

that’s a lot of votes

Talk to the host about the VC, why not. This is a 26 player game. coloured me surprised.

I still hate the lack of concrete conclusion tbh

@Frostwolf103

Light sounds also white knighty to me, so yeah I view him as scumlean too, Light is good investigation target, although some scum classes are immune to that.

Another read

@Frostwolf103

I am going to agree to disagree, so please dont waste your energy on your metaread.

meh actual ok reasoning

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The fact he’s not willing to yeet Light is weird but it’s not like overly scummy?

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I actually don’t really hate the slot, I wouldn’t yeet this

Honestly the way he just talks to one person at a time is pretty townie actually lol, still hate the fact he never comes up with conclusions actually

[Centuries]

The slot isn’t really scumhunting, or looking to create towncores

he’s also not an obvious townie

Honestly I could see scum pushing this lol

[Zone_Q11]

@Aelin

Real talk, though, I’m getting Alice and Zone’s pfps mixed up

Uh… I changed mine back though?

[Frostwolf103]

@Centuries

I still hate the lack of concrete conclusion tbh

That will ruin on who I am going to visit

[Centuries]

Chloe time bc lolvulgardmadeagoodpostabouthersoimlookingtoseeifisharethatthought

@Chloe

@TheBlueElixir

Made(mostly) before i got my classcard. I know like half of the people in this game are only putting in half effort but I wanna win this one.

Nobody is going to read this, minus like
three people

@N.1

Thank you all once again, and let’s have some fun.

same as above

@Vulgard

senpai

wolf

@TheBlueElixir

just keep posting

are you sandbagging this game?

gross post

@Vulgard

what the actual fuck i have just been bled

dont ignore vul just because he claimed bled, thanks

not gunna have mechanics fuck up this game

@N.1

Vulgard >rand V

he’s incredibly popular on all fronts, even on the front of being bled, he’s less likely than others i know to attempt gigamind reaction tests extremely early, and well he could be the other wolf faction because multiball, but eh.

This is really gross
Its so early, why are we doing this so early

@N.1

he could be the other wolf faction

Also this is weird
Why not say “Vul could still be a wolf here” rather than “the other wolf faction”
You don’t think the bleed came from town ever ?

@Leafia

Reading someone town because they got bled is literally the wolfiest play I’ve ever seen on this site. Are you a wolf N.1?

First post is a read and a vote
I don’t like it.

@TheBlueElixir

/vote chloe

post

bro leave me alone im eating a donut

A. Shit is going too fast for me. Can people stop posting one-liners, please
B. I’m eating breakfast and have the mental capacity of my sister atm, so dont expect any refined thoughts. thanks

/vote Leafia
@Amelia

Honestly this post is like

I think Vulgard overestimates how scummy Chloe is there

@Chloe

wolf

@Chloe

dont ignore vul just because he claimed bled, thanks

not gunna have mechanics fuck up this game

@Chloe

Also this is weird
Why not say “Vul could still be a wolf here” rather than “the other wolf faction”
You don’t think the bleed came from town ever ?

@Chloe

First post is a read and a vote
I don’t like it.

Honestly the one liners calling x scummy is eh

I agree that her not looking to build townreads early is weird

@Chloe

@Vulgard

/vote Chloe

this is not omgus

how could it be omgus if i wasnt pushing you
nerd

@Italy

vulgard getting bled is certainly

either fake or there’s a scum that vul has a godread on

I actually think i might have an aneurysm if this entire SoD becomes talk about Vul’s bleed
There is zero point speculating on it imo
Bleeds are delayed deaths, and it isnt even guaranteed that Vul is bled

Not only do we give scum the chaos they want from discussing mechanics, but its also slightly pre-flippy territory anytime we make a read based around a bleed

I just think its dumb
Vul can make reads regarding his bleed since he has TMI that its real (if it is), but I don’t think theres much reason for any of us to
Just clogs shit

@Leafia

Not sure why you’re voting me here. I’d like to hear your thought process. If it’s because my first post was a read and a vote, then why are you doing the same thing?

@Leafia

I’d also like to hear your reasoning for voting Chloe please.

@Leafia

That actually makes a lot of sense. Let’s see where a Chloe wagon takes us. /vote Chloe

Ngl i voted you just to see how you would react
I didn’t really care about your first post, I just find it easier to gauge your alignment after a little oomph

Also this reaction is weird as fuck, but its getting into meta-read territory, which I don’t want to do a lot
Something feels off - your sheep vote rather than straight-up OMGUS is… not what I’d expect from you
I’m keeping an eye on you

@Vulgard

the longer version is that her first post is a bunch of questions and questioning people posting early reads as if it’s always a wolfy thing to do

Excuse you

@Chloe

tencharacters

this was my first post ):<

@clonedcheese

wolves wouldn’t buddy buddy like this 10 mins into game

W/W (or the opposite) reads early on are stupid. I don’t think this is AI of you, I just think its stupid.

@Leafia

What the heck are you trying to do? Get serious and stop with these theatrics if you’re town.

@Leafia

What you’re doing now is ww. I can only think that it has to be an RT, because no wolf in their right mind would be acting the way that you’re acting right now. Sadly, I think this kind of behavior of yours likely comes from a v doing an RT.

These posts look weird as fuck and I almost want to call them TMI, but its hella early for that
I think its odd that she immediately goes the “villager doing an RT” route
Same feeling as when she asked for Vul’s reason for voting me, rather than voting me herself

A lot of this is meta
I’m gunna try to shut up on the meta now

@Leafia

Seriously? Everyone, get your votes off me now! If I was a wolf, don’t you think I would’ve OMGUSED at least once by now!?! I’ll be expecting an apology from every villager pushing me right now post game. We’re literally less than an hour into the game! You can’t form accurate reads this fast! Now stop it!

Oh fuck self-meta already
Did i already find a wolf

This game is too fast for me why did i join it

I think this follow up post is better

@Vulgard

this chloe’s thoughts also seem to focus on wolfy actions rather than wolfy players if that makes sense

I think this is fairly true and I’d actually think Chloe is scummy~ish for that

Now we are comparing Chloe to Elephas

@Vulgard

she’s selectively pointing out wolfy stuff about player after player all the time

This is something I agree with and I do believe Vulgard’s play is townie thus I TR him for it

@Chloe

I should expand my boundaries outside of Leafia.

I think this post is town motivated though

@Chloe

I’m giving everyone like
3 hours to talk about the vul bleed

I also think the attitude is townie

@Chloe

Leafia didn’t truly OMGUS me. She sheeped Vul’s vote on me.

@Chloe

I don’t think everything Conroy has done has been non-meaningful? The comment on Vul playing his own game is something I agreed on
The thing about gauging V/V interactions is something I agreed on
Not calling your pre-written posts townie is something I agree on

I will keep an eye on him since you pointed him out, but I don’t think hes a wolf atp

@Chloe

Zone actually responded to TBE’s bigass first post
Its so much easier to just ignore it like the rest of us
I think this is a good look

I think she’s actually looking to create a towncore so I think Vulgard’s point is semi invalidated?

ofc afterwards there’s also many posts who are just “oh x has done something I islike”

but I still do not think she’s not trying to build any towncore?

@Chloe

I just dont want other people to focus on the bleeds and try to make reads based off of them. Especially with this game being multiball, as its hard to determine where a bleed came from.
The only person who should really be reading into the bleed is the person who was bled imo
It just causes unnecessary chaos and clouds judgement on reads otherwise

I also believe her attitude towards Bleeds is town AI but it’s also easily fakeable

@Chloe

I wish this game allowed alts
The best reads I’ve had were when I was on an alt and actively avoiding using meta
I don’t think its bad to do that
Sure, meta will always be in the back of my mind somewhere, but I dont want it to overwhelm my takes
Especially since Leafia pointed out that their exact scum and townmetas before the game started
Of course they’re going to change it up lmao

@Chloe

Bro i feel like ive done a lot more than I have
I only have 11 posts but ive stuffed so much shit into these

@Chloe

I’d prefer if you read through my posts to figure out if anyone has dropped or went up in my reads lmao
But sure I can answer

I dont have any mega strong townreads atm? Top I’d probably say is TBE
im gunna get asked why so
TBE feels incredibly genuine, and has unique takes - like his read on conroy, for example
Feels truly solvey and gives me good vibes
Overall I haven’t seen anything from him that pings me as wolfy

Don’t really have a top scumread rn and I don’t wanna make anything up and pretend like I do

Leafia moved up because her recent posts explain her thought-process more, and she is forming her own opinions on players rather than being a sheepy sheep - and her take on me doesn’t feel faked

PK moved down a bit because of how he hopped into the Leafia wagon with no solid reasoning, just “your reaction was bad” - and hes weirdly aware of where his vote should be

@Chloe

Bro it was literally my second post
It was in the random voting stage
I voted Leafia because thats the easiest way for me to gauge her alignment

Why are you not scumreading other people for voting for reactions?

Of course I don’t have a complete case not even an hour into the game
I voted her for a reaction
It’s not the first time I’ve done this and it wont be the last

And what other pushes don’t feel honest? My PK vote?
You’re so focused on me - and I don’t know how else to explain my thought process

I’ve provided more content
Read it.
aaaAAAAAAAAAAA

This reads as town

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I agreed with Vulgard’s point and I do not think his push is in bad faith but I think they are both town? Like sure her attitude with handing out “x is doing something i dislike” semi scummy but most of her iso looks townie

[Centuries]

@Frostwolf103

That will ruin on who I am going to visit

:wut:

[Frostwolf103]

Also lol wallpost, I am going to take a look.

[Frostwolf103]

@Centuries

:wut:

I am more or less keep it to myself, however I speak out on my posts though.