[SFoL] SFoL 63 - Triple Threat: Virtuous - Game Over (4/26) - Blue Dragon (evils) win!

[Magnus]

I’m literally going to bed now, and I’m apparently dead now.
So… yeah.

[Moleland]

Can you fix your spacebar? Kthxbye

[Centuries]

@Moleland

Can you fix your spacebar

enter key

you mean?

nah its broken

@Magnus

I’m literally going to bed now, and I’m apparently dead now.

ffs o_O

[Magnus]

Now i’m seriously debating claiming my role, but I’m deciding not to.
Because if I’m dead it doesn’t matter.
If I’m alive it does matter.
I’ll swear if I live I’ll claim my first post the next day.
And goodnight guys!

[Moleland]

Pls don’t

[Vulgard]

@Centuries

I actually don’t really hate the slot, I wouldn’t yeet this

Honestly the way he just talks to one person at a time is pretty townie actually lol, still hate the fact he never comes up with conclusions actually

believe me when i say that frost actually talking about the game and trying to solve anyone means he’s almost always town

not sure if it applies to multiball but i still feel confident about townreading him

i would have a better read on chloe rn if she didn’t… replace out of the game but 1. i am not going to angleshoot that and 2. i guess sulit is there now

@Magnus

Because my class is important.
Like always.

oh god no this is the third claim i noticed and there were multiple softs from other players as well
i’m town and i see this
wolves see this too
stop doing this

speaking of which, i’m bleeding and i need to be healed
i mentioned this at sod

is this scum!magnus by the way

@Magnus

I’m literally going to bed now, and I’m apparently dead now.
So… yeah.

this post is making me think scum!magnus because he’s trying to fake a townslip
“town wouldn’t know there are no dayvigs in the setup”

[Vulgard]

i really hope you’re some weaker class / a class that wants to be visited and not actual PRs because that’s not how you play PR thanks

by PR I mean duke, marshal (not that one) + prestige classes

[Vulgard]

and yes i’m just going to put this openly in the thread because wolves aren’t idiots and can figure out you want to be visited by wolves

[Vulgard]

how come every time i leave the thread the discussion is about absolutely nothing important

[Frostwolf103]

Still I think players who aren’t buying your bleed earlier are worth watching out for.

[Centuries]

[quote=“Centuries, post:2557, topic:83266, full:true”]
Chloe time bc lolvulgardmadeagoodpostabouthersoimlookingtoseeifisharethatthought

[quote=“Chloe, post:121, topic:83266”]

@TheBlueElixir

Made(mostly) before i got my classcard. I know like half of the people in this game are only putting in half effort but I wanna win this one.
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Nobody is going to read this, minus like
three people

@N.1

Thank you all once again, and let’s have some fun.

same as above

@Vulgard

senpai

wolf

@TheBlueElixir

just keep posting

are you sandbagging this game?

gross post

@Vulgard

what the actual fuck i have just been bled

dont ignore vul just because he claimed bled, thanks

not gunna have mechanics fuck up this game

@N.1

Vulgard >rand V

he’s incredibly popular on all fronts, even on the front of being bled, he’s less likely than others i know to attempt gigamind reaction tests extremely early, and well he could be the other wolf faction because multiball, but eh.

This is really gross
Its so early, why are we doing this so early

@N.1

he could be the other wolf faction

Also this is weird
Why not say “Vul could still be a wolf here” rather than “the other wolf faction”
You don’t think the bleed came from town ever ?

@Leafia

Reading someone town because they got bled is literally the wolfiest play I’ve ever seen on this site. Are you a wolf N.1?

First post is a read and a vote
I don’t like it.

@TheBlueElixir

/vote chloe

post

bro leave me alone im eating a donut

A. Shit is going too fast for me. Can people stop posting one-liners, please
B. I’m eating breakfast and have the mental capacity of my sister atm, so dont expect any refined thoughts. thanks

/vote Leafia
@Amelia

Honestly this post is like

I think Vulgard overestimates how scummy Chloe is there

@Chloe

wolf

@Chloe

dont ignore vul just because he claimed bled, thanks

not gunna have mechanics fuck up this game

@Chloe

Also this is weird

Why not say “Vul could still be a wolf here” rather than “the other wolf faction”
You don’t think the bleed came from town ever ?

@Chloe

First post is a read and a vote

I don’t like it.

Honestly the one liners calling x scummy is eh

I agree that her not looking to build townreads early is weird

@Chloe

@Vulgard

/vote Chloe

this is not omgus
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how could it be omgus if i wasnt pushing you
nerd

@Italy

vulgard getting bled is certainly

either fake or there’s a scum that vul has a godread on

I actually think i might have an aneurysm if this entire SoD becomes talk about Vul’s bleed
There is zero point speculating on it imo
Bleeds are delayed deaths, and it isnt even guaranteed that Vul is bled

Not only do we give scum the chaos they want from discussing mechanics, but its also slightly pre-flippy territory anytime we make a read based around a bleed

I just think its dumb
Vul can make reads regarding his bleed since he has TMI that its real (if it is), but I don’t think theres much reason for any of us to
Just clogs shit

@Leafia

Not sure why you’re voting me here. I’d like to hear your thought process. If it’s because my first post was a read and a vote, then why are you doing the same thing?

@Leafia

I’d also like to hear your reasoning for voting Chloe please.

@Leafia

That actually makes a lot of sense. Let’s see where a Chloe wagon takes us. /vote Chloe

Ngl i voted you just to see how you would react
I didn’t really care about your first post, I just find it easier to gauge your alignment after a little oomph

Also this reaction is weird as fuck, but its getting into meta-read territory, which I don’t want to do a lot
Something feels off - your sheep vote rather than straight-up OMGUS is… not what I’d expect from you
I’m keeping an eye on you

@Vulgard

the longer version is that her first post is a bunch of questions and questioning people posting early reads as if it’s always a wolfy thing to do

Excuse you

@Chloe

tencharacters

this was my first post ):<

@clonedcheese

wolves wouldn’t buddy buddy like this 10 mins into game

W/W (or the opposite) reads early on are stupid. I don’t think this is AI of you, I just think its stupid.

@Leafia

What the heck are you trying to do? Get serious and stop with these theatrics if you’re town.

@Leafia

What you’re doing now is ww. I can only think that it has to be an RT, because no wolf in their right mind would be acting the way that you’re acting right now. Sadly, I think this kind of behavior of yours likely comes from a v doing an RT.

These posts look weird as fuck and I almost want to call them TMI, but its hella early for that
I think its odd that she immediately goes the “villager doing an RT” route
Same feeling as when she asked for Vul’s reason for voting me, rather than voting me herself

A lot of this is meta
I’m gunna try to shut up on the meta now

@Leafia

Seriously? Everyone, get your votes off me now! If I was a wolf, don’t you think I would’ve OMGUSED at least once by now!?! I’ll be expecting an apology from every villager pushing me right now post game. We’re literally less than an hour into the game! You can’t form accurate reads this fast! Now stop it!

Oh fuck self-meta already
Did i already find a wolf

This game is too fast for me why did i join it

I think this follow up post is better

@Vulgard

this chloe’s thoughts also seem to focus on wolfy actions rather than wolfy players if that makes sense

I think this is fairly true and I’d actually think Chloe is scummy~ish for that

Now we are comparing Chloe to Elephas

@Vulgard

she’s selectively pointing out wolfy stuff about player after player all the time

This is something I agree with and I do believe Vulgard’s play is townie thus I TR him for it

@Chloe

I should expand my boundaries outside of Leafia.

I think this post is town motivated though

@Chloe

I’m giving everyone like

3 hours to talk about the vul bleed

I also think the attitude is townie

@Chloe

Leafia didn’t truly OMGUS me. She sheeped Vul’s vote on me.

@Chloe

I don’t think everything Conroy has done has been non-meaningful? The comment on Vul playing his own game is something I agreed on

The thing about gauging V/V interactions is something I agreed on
Not calling your pre-written posts townie is something I agree on

I will keep an eye on him since you pointed him out, but I don’t think hes a wolf atp

@Chloe

Zone actually responded to TBE’s bigass first post

Its so much easier to just ignore it like the rest of us
I think this is a good look

I think she’s actually looking to create a towncore so I think Vulgard’s point is semi invalidated?

ofc afterwards there’s also many posts who are just “oh x has done something I islike”

but I still do not think she’s not trying to build any towncore?

@Chloe

I just dont want other people to focus on the bleeds and try to make reads based off of them. Especially with this game being multiball, as its hard to determine where a bleed came from.

The only person who should really be reading into the bleed is the person who was bled imo
It just causes unnecessary chaos and clouds judgement on reads otherwise

I also believe her attitude towards Bleeds is town AI but it’s also easily fakeable

@Chloe

I wish this game allowed alts

The best reads I’ve had were when I was on an alt and actively avoiding using meta
I don’t think its bad to do that
Sure, meta will always be in the back of my mind somewhere, but I dont want it to overwhelm my takes
Especially since Leafia pointed out that their exact scum and townmetas before the game started
Of course they’re going to change it up lmao

@Chloe

Bro i feel like ive done a lot more than I have

I only have 11 posts but ive stuffed so much shit into these

@Chloe

I’d prefer if you read through my posts to figure out if anyone has dropped or went up in my reads lmao

But sure I can answer

I dont have any mega strong townreads atm? Top I’d probably say is TBE
im gunna get asked why so
TBE feels incredibly genuine, and has unique takes - like his read on conroy, for example
Feels truly solvey and gives me good vibes
Overall I haven’t seen anything from him that pings me as wolfy

Don’t really have a top scumread rn and I don’t wanna make anything up and pretend like I do

Leafia moved up because her recent posts explain her thought-process more, and she is forming her own opinions on players rather than being a sheepy sheep - and her take on me doesn’t feel faked

PK moved down a bit because of how he hopped into the Leafia wagon with no solid reasoning, just “your reaction was bad” - and hes weirdly aware of where his vote should be

@Chloe

Bro it was literally my second post

It was in the random voting stage
I voted Leafia because thats the easiest way for me to gauge her alignment

Why are you not scumreading other people for voting for reactions?

Of course I don’t have a complete case not even an hour into the game
I voted her for a reaction
It’s not the first time I’ve done this and it wont be the last

And what other pushes don’t feel honest? My PK vote?
You’re so focused on me - and I don’t know how else to explain my thought process

I’ve provided more content
Read it.
aaaAAAAAAAAAAA

This reads as town

I agreed with Vulgard’s point and I do not think his push is in bad faith but I think they are both town? Like sure her attitude with handing out “x is doing something i dislike” semi scummy but most of her iso looks townie

@Vulgard thoughts?

[Alice]

I literally began ToS2 by adding Gorta, Wazza, and PKR to my town circle. What?

[Centuries]

yo ruined my quote

poggers

[Alice]

@an_gorta_pratai

Did Alice get replaced with an anime alien thing?

Hawa hawa. Don’t worry, everything is fine with big sis. (づo◕‿◕o)づ

[sulit]

good

morning

[Alice]

@Vulgard

i think he’s been doing information instead of analysis a lot and that’s wolfy

Additionally I dislike his reasoning for making IIoA. It just… doesn’t really make sense for an either a villa or a wolf perspective to open up with a wall of IIoA just to be notice and he hasn’t really improved a lot and has barely been playing or trying to solve at all. I’d wager he’s probably just a wolf using it as an excuse for his shit-tier opener.

[Alice]

@Vulgard

my experience with scum leafia is that she enjoys pocketing people and schooling them, she hasn’t really been doing that this game much

Didn’t she also start pushing and making pre-flips in FEFM? Her pushes her do look more independent, but the preflips she’s been making and how easily her mind’s been changing worries me. Still wouldn’t kill her this early, tho.

[Alice]

@Vulgard

i have made tons of these reads as w

I’m more suspicious of how reluctant gorta is to clearing people, tbh. From the manner that he’s hedging it looks more like a wolf trying to keep their lynch options open rather than actually sorting people out.

If Sulit/Gorta are both wolves then they’re probably in the same team as that read you bolded kind looks more like a wolf trying to buy their buddy time and bus them if they don’t improve.

I have some… thoughts regarding Chloe’s slot, but I’ll leave it to allies chat.

[Alice]

I think Derps is just a villager here.

Shooting him would just be a policy shot, tbh.

[Vulgard]

she’s still possible town but i am leaning mafia nonetheless