[SFoL] SFoL 63 - Triple Threat: Virtuous - Game Over (4/26) - Blue Dragon (evils) win!

I have my suspicions on him, like voting Insanity and then unvote to let Insanity self-resolve, doesn’t matter he got the mechanics wrong, it’s still the motive to move the main wagon elsewhere (later he voted back on). And I believe instead of social solving like he is makig it clear in his first posts he is going to make anti-mechanical clearing stance and at End of Day, he does the opposite with Insanity.

These were my suspicions of him being Visionary though, although on reading the messages more closely it doesnt far fetched of N.1 being HoB member that want to avoid jettison opposite scum faction.

Just caught up.

What the actual?

Cloned is main wagon instead of Soul, problem?

N.1 is never BD here.
N.1 being HoB would explain their reluctance to vote the outed wolf on D1.
Both BD and HoB need each other at first to whittle down the Unseen numbers and would therefore try to avoid voting each other up early game.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence all the slots in my HoB PoE didn’t up Insanity.

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You can maybe check their votes and see if they townreads them or not, if they are voting one person but not townread or interact with each other, consider they have been distancing.

Which is why I am comparing N.1 with Moleland, PK, Insanity on these two things.

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I learned from one game that agreeing each other but no townreading them is not the same as the metaphor “same page”

Hm… Whysper, do you believe that Italy is a Soulcatcher?
Do you believe that clonedcheese is a Minstrel?


I cannot confirm that Italy has the ability to speak with the dead until D3 starts unless I jail him Tonight. (…actually, I don’t see why I can’t just leave him alone, since we will be wagonning him if Cent doesn’t get revived by D3.)

The only problem I have with Italy is: He definitely claims to have three souls, which was supposed to come from Insanity saying that BD were going to attack Cent. Regardless of who BD actually planned to kill, HoB was already going to kill Cent. “While not impossible, it is improbable.”

I am definitely more of a mech player than a social reader, and EVERYONE A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN SHIT ON ME FOR KILLING THE MARSHAL, but in the end that is Ad Hominem; they are attacking me and not my argument. My argument says: “It is mechanically improbable, therefore I cannot bring myself to trust Italy.”

Alice said Italy’s actions wouldn’t make sense as wolf, but she hasn’t responded to your post (P#4620) about how it doesn’t make sense as town either.

Everyone The majority seem to just believe Italy for social reads, and… it really is frustrating how it was just let go like this.

Bah, fine. You might get occupied or converted by scum or whatnot, and fail to bring back Cent, but you’d still have to tell me my message to PKR if you are to ever prove that you can talk with the dead. (Which doesn’t exempt you from being the legitimate Saint, but I am too exhausted to even bother about that at this point.)


So… it should be 7-7 tie on cheese and Soul at the time of the VC post I quoted.

Current VC

Voted Voters Votes
clonedcheese Vulgard, Leafia, Whysper, ash4fun, Italy, CRichard564, an_gorta_pratai, Frostwolf103 8/12
Alice SirDerpsALot 1/12
Soulshade55r Surge, Alice, Moleland, N.1, ATNoName, clonedcheese, Wazza 7/12
Italy Zone_Q11, Soulshade55r 2/12

Either way Alcoholics should HH the counterwagon regardless of who gets yeeted.

I second this proposal.

the existence of my revive ability alone makes me unconvertible due to the fact i’d either become a blasphemer mirror or go straight to heroine, “res or die” is too powerful of a pressure tool
if i’m not jailed or in allies i’ll just res centuries but otherwise i’ll at least try to prove myself first

…welp. This was forgotten.
@SirDerpsAlot, did you do anything other than post:

I understand jailed, but why not if you’re in Allies chat?

…? Blaspemer Mirror is BD. Soulcatcher Mirror is HoB.

wrong
blasphemer revives voices, which the saint mirrors
soulcatcher revives players, which the priest mirrors

Oh. You’re right. I stand corrected.

since bd is down to just the visionary, i’d convert straight to heroine
i cannot be converted as long as i still have a res
this is me making excuses so i can revive vulgard/alice when the time comes instead of crying in a corner when i’m the only person who isn’t willage

…if you’re not going to revive Cent, then I can just jail you and have you prove me that you can talk with the dead by saying what I told PKR?

that should work

This is what I call pro gamer move HH you

@Alice, do you greenlight this?