[SFoL] SFoL 63 - Triple Threat: Virtuous - Game Over (4/26) - Blue Dragon (evils) win!

I am not trying to be hero either, this is suppose to be teamwork effort.

I don’t know, like I said my reads have been crap this game. I would say in someone clear with influence in the thread

I have done squat and when I get the chance to do my part everyone goes “Sorry, you aren’t towny enough for that”

Actually big brain plan, gorta shoot either leafia or wazza.

That…

Actually makes sense.

Magnus

I can’t say much about this slot until I see more from Magnus, but this is null for me. There is towny potential, but I haven’t seen much from Magnus.

N.1

I put this a light town read, as they have been making reads, trying to keep the thread on track, and their tone is decent. N.1 feels like BotF III N.1 and in my opinion that’s a good thing.

Whysper

I hate this slot. Whypser’s opener was just awful and I feel their later posts don’t really improve. I also think some of their reads have some of the worst progression I have ever seen. I also hate the use of mostly formal statements and emojis, but the emojis are probably more of a me thing. These posts feel fake and I just don’t like them, their progression is very off, and I think some of their statements seem like code. I will obviously case this one a bit more later, but this is my highest current scum read.

Italy

Italy is actual trying here, which scum Italy doesn’t do. I think Italy is likely town and that’s mostly what I have to say regarding this slot. I could go on about this and that, but scum Italy doesn’t have this much energy.

Ash

In my last game with Ash I thought they were odd, but I think they are town here. I feel like a broken record, but they are solving, have good tone, and aren’t posting tons of fluff. They also seem to have independent reads, which is great. I would say this is town, but not lock town. They shouldn’t be executed today though

Chloe -> Sulit

Chloe: The case on Chloe from Vulgard is very good.I remember in FoL 29 Chloe was hard pushing Vulgard and that continued in allies, but I don’t see that here. I want to re-ISO Chloe in BfA 2 now (and likely will) to compare it, but it does look similar from my memory. I honestly think Chloe’s slot could be a wolf here, as there are no hard pushes from this slot and it’s mostly just questions. I don’t know what else could be said, but this is likely a wolf. I won’t make a conclusion until looking at Sulit though
Sulit: Sulit hasn’t made any posts that have made me think that this slot isn’t a wolf, but I think Sulit should have a chance to prove herself. I like that she did disagree with Chloe’s original read and I think she could clear the slots name, but the slot shouldn’t live to d3 if she doesn’t improve
Conclusion: I still think that this slot is likely a wolf, but we should know that by d2 and by d3 if she doesn’t improve she needs to die

Derps

I honestly think Derps is town. This won’t be contrarian, but I don’t care. Derps feels like his town self. Non of the above towny things really applies to Derps and it’s mostly tone. We have hydra’d together twice and I am decent at reading derps, so I am so confident in this read, but I do want to see Derps explaining their reads more.

Zone

I don’t know how I 100% feel about Zone, but I would say Zone is kind of leaning town for me (it’s not a strong tl). Zone’s tone is always agressive, so I won’t try to read Zone on that, but I have noticed that Zone hasn’t been death tunneling anyone d1. In Homestuck I recall scum Zone deathtunneling Leafia, but I don’t see that here. This may be a bad way to clear Zone, but I am sticking with it, as I haven’t had much problem reading Zone before.

Wazza

I will say that I wasn’t seeing too much out of the norm for town Wazza, until I saw Wazza’s EoD. Wazza doesn’t make a read on Insanity at all and just comes up at the EoD and says “Insanity is likely town, let’s please lynch somewhere else”. I honestly don’t know if Wazza does buddy/buddy stuff like that with lesser skilled wolves, but I want an explanation regardless or I will support a lynch here.

Frost

I will admit that I don’t know how to read Frost super well, but I don’t think that Frost is 100% a wolf. For starters Arete has said that Frost can be activity read, but I won’t rely on that alone. I will have to read cases on this slot, but I haven’t seen anything overly scummy in my opinion. I will say this is PoE for me, but there are others I would execute before Frost.

Light

I put this as a light townlean (no pun intended). To explain things better, I think they have been asking good questions, solving, and such. Some people have been sidelining, but I don’t think this is the case with Light. The way they handled EoD1 is also pretty good in my opinion.

these are all of my reads on the people alive. I have been working on this over the last week or so, which is why I get so upset when people go on about how I am likely scum and that I haven’t done anything

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Damnit, that’s outdated. I forgot to save my last edit

marauders don’t lose gulit if they kill someone with counter. judging by the wording

I will say that I had mole at having scum equity and not being BD, I posted my TBE thing earlier, and I said that CRich is likely town in more or less words

So you want me to shoot either Wazza or Leafia?

yep, they should counter, you will die. but hey it clears you and one of the marauders from convert

@ash4fun these are my current reads on the alive players

You’d think it was a bad idea regardless of alignment so this tells me nothing about your alignment. If you don’t want to be nightvigged, start trying to convince us that you’re town.

I don’t think we can ever be 100% certain until he flips.

Those pesky dragons. Always breathing fire everywhere.

Same here. I can definitely see Whysper being the convert.

I agree. N.1 is towncore in my eyes now and admittedly, Gorta is looking better too.

We’ll have to try smarter, not harder.

These are my thoughts too. So we need to look for someone acting different than they did D1 and D2.

As of right now, I think I’m willing enough to risk Gorta being scum to agree to this. I want to hear what Alice thinks first though.

On second thought, same allies as last night.

I think you’re already out of the PoE of most players with being okay with dying like this.

The visionary can’t be detected with a check.[quote=“Alice, post:7208, topic:83266”]
I’m technically suspecting you of being the convert because of you straight-to-the bat convert hunting instead of trying to find the starting wolves. I don’t think you’d genuinely hunt for the convert right after it happened over starting scum.
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I can honestly see t!Vulgard doing that. I don’t know if w!Vulgard would though.

I can agree with this though.[quote=“Alice, post:7224, topic:83266, full:true”]
If you’re legit, then N.
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N.1 will be dying anyway.[quote=“Alice, post:7253, topic:83266, full:true”]
I think gorta’s just the Visionary here.

His reaction to being put in the PoE when wolves are close to loosing look more like a wolf’s reaction than a villager’s one.
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It’s a possibility, even if I’m starting to think he might be town.

A visionary that knew that at least one town killer was going to shoot him.

How is that a good idea? He’ll just die to our counterattack. That and I’m really starting to think Gorta is town here. I can’t say for sure though.

Which one of the two would you like to see me shoot?

actually to be more specific, shoot leafia since no sane person would convert a D2 bled (Wazza).

AT, that’s the worst idea possible and never comes from a good king. Gorta will just die then.

I am just pissed off because everyone SRs me still for being inactive/quiet most of the time and not doing much. This isn’t my first 5 games here, so most of the people here should know how I play.

Who would you propose I shoot?

For what it’s worth, I don’t think you’re scum any more. As to who you’d shoot, I’m not sure yet. Actually, Gorta is a good pick for allies I think. Along with me and Alice.we need to plan things out about who Gorta will be shooting.

look, gorta is probably the most sus person(beside mole) alive atm. If he is visionary, he won’t shoot and gorta would be alive thus confirming him as visionary. If he does, he dies and nobody lose anything to gulit

If you’re included in allies, Alice, you, and me can plan that out.