[SFoL] SFoL 63 - Triple Threat: Virtuous - Game Over (4/26) - Blue Dragon (evils) win!

[Zone_Q11]

Yeah, but that is still not admitting you fucked up.
Plus, pot meet kettle.

The only upside is that this fight of ours is ironically not as bad as talking with Surge.
PKR certainly made a mess of D1 with that RT.

[Italy]

at least emilia was tolerable enough to speak to

[Alice]

Like, his recent posts were just going along with the thread’s flow and pressuring Italy/Magnus rather than trying to find the Visionary.

[Moleland]

Visionary hunting

World 1: Visionary pushed Alice too
Conclusion: Both voters have flipped.

World 2: Insanity played badly in purpose to get bussed early for town cred.

@Amelia

|Insanity|Alice, Surge, ATNoName, Frostwolf103, Whysper|5/14|

Suspects: Alice
Unlikely: I don’t think they would claim to have hit a night immune without additional knowledge (Maybe Insanity lied and Pk chose to attack Wazza?) But very risky play as last BD. Visionary rating 4/10

Frostwolf
It’s possible. Even with a town meta read, they could be visionary at this poiny
Rating: 7/10

Whysper
Doubtful. I don’t think a newb would do what they did, but it’s not impossible
Rating: 5/10

World 3: Alice’s enhanced PoE
Suspects:

@Alice

Light/Sulit/Cloned/Soul/Gorta

Light

ISO

@Aelin

At this point in time going for HoB/BD is irrelevant. We should just focus on whether or not they are town or a wolf, and after we narrow things down a bit we can take a look at BD/BD, BD/HoB, and HoB/HoB.

Weird post now, considering that both other BD were being pressured at this point.

@Aelin

These three are the three I’m most interesting in reasoning behind. I haven’t seen much from PsychoKang, although I haven’t entirely read up I’ll admit.

@Aelin

This is a ridiculous thought. You don’t remember anything from reading the thread? You have to go back to your prior reads?

@Aelin

Have you read the thread?

Starts shading other BD

@Aelin

PsychoKang - A lot of their ISO is just full of fluff

@Aelin

Insanity - Terrible push, terrible reasoning, not contributing to the thread with valuable reads or insight

Scumreads them both

Conclusion: Possible. Did start off having some weird interactions, but pressured them both later on. Rating: 6/10

Sullit

Iso

(Nothing in particular from Chloe iirc)

@sulit

chleb had em at scumread and said she’s sheeping alice’s read on em

I have no personal opinion on the vote but

alice p smart

so

makes sense

Seems like a potential bus post

@sulit

does s!insanity go after alice

ok back to reading ISO

Questions the vote. Not bussing afterall?

@sulit

I like Insanity a lot tbh

The read feels like they genuinely believe it in

like

they dont have tmi on Alice’s alignment

they’re like hey thats weird why are you village reading people

I like the progression on the read and the continued sus and the aggression on pushing the read

Insanity cool \o/

Gonna look at Alice’s read on em to see what Chloe was seein’ tho

Ok, now defends the slot

@sulit

I’m kinda confused about Alice’s PoV here

If I’m understanding the reasoning correctly they don’t think Insanity actually believed in the push due to Alice’s meta, so it was malice

but mentioned earlier that Insanity wouldn’t know their meta?

confused noises

More defending

[quote=“sulit, post:2958, topic:83266”]
I

really hate PK

The Surge SR is ??? is comes out of nowhere. I see little actual reasoning for it?? He says the push is weird but never actually tries to evaluate it.

The Leafia push is also ??? He never revisits it and just votes them because Chloe told them to. He’s just like oh yea Leafia could be scum huh, and then like

Never thinks about Leafia again

Theres a ton of self aware stuff in his ISO

PK

is AAAAA

@EliThePsycho

@Chloe

Lets see where this gets us:

/vote PsychoKang @Anstreim @Amelia
[/quote]

hello what do you need

This is a sooper weird take but I don’t like this reaction

It’s like he’s annoyed Chloe is pushing him rather than like. Actually wanting to know why. Which more often comes from a scum PoV.

/vote PK

Well then

Conclusion: Defence of Insanity seemed genuine (T defending W), and I don’t see Visionary bussing PK whilst defending Insanity. Rating: 5/10

Cloned

Iso

@clonedcheese

Alice ISO
cuz fuck powerful players

@Alice

Village pile rn is Seth/Zone/Intensify/TBE/Likely Vulgard from most to least villagery.

Feels weird aftet Insanity’s pushes.

@clonedcheese

it’s cyan not aqua but w/e

Too lazy to figure out the context here but

@clonedcheese

Potentially spicy read coming up soon

@Vulgard @Moleland can you describe why you dislike pk?

Visionary?

@clonedcheese

Alright I am back with:

/vote Vulgard

Although they have been generally helpful and trying to solve, that in itself doesn’t tell much; from his actions, I believe that his slot is trying to skew town’s judgement.

In previous games, most notably FoL 29 (idk, the most recent one), Vulgard picked on inactive LHF as scum with weak reasoning. PK’s behavior, although self aware and fluffy at places, has generally be towny - more egregious imo than

And this was a post starting the PK wagon:

@Vulgard

/vote PsychoKing would be nice to have more than one wagon

Then follows up with:

@Vulgard

would be nice to hit a wolf day 1

i hope everyone gets off of vanity wagons by the end of the day

And this was today, just a few hours ago. I see this slot as trying to lightly push town towards a ML that they cannot be accounted for.

Votes someone pushing PK

@clonedcheese

I wish to accuse Moleland of this also, but they have indicated that their vote is changeable, and therefore a vanity. Less agenda-y it seems.

Conclusion: Wow. Was really resistant to PKs lynch and was weird all day. Rating: 9/10

Soul

ISO

@Soulshade55r

/Vote PK

I’m just going to leave a vote here we can pretty easily lynch insanity tomorrow if they don’t resolve nothing against pk because I haven’t had hardly any interaction.

I personally want vulguard to stay another day, Wazza lacks any votes to switch a push but they would be in the same case and reason why I’m voting pk here.

There only post about either of them after scabbling with Leafia most of the day

Conclusion: I don’t see them being so relaxed and distanced like they are if they are Visionary. Rating: 5/10

Gorta

iso

@EliThePsycho

PoE in no particular order

Chloe -> sulit
Seth
Wazza
TBE

What an odd reaction

@an_gorta_pratai

Insanity

Insanity’s ISO is just tunnel Alice the ISO. I wish they would really branch out and do more non Alice/Chloe stuff. Like I feel like it would be easier to read them if they weren’t just tunneling Alice. My one hangup is does scum go after Alice d1? It’s usually easier to kill or convert Alice to either silence her for good or get her to your side. I put this one a null, but I don’t know if this is trending scum or town. Can anyone help me out here?

I will do more later, but this is a sample

Non-commital. Ew

@an_gorta_pratai

I did a quick read of both Wazza and PK. I would pick PK out of the two because Wazza’s tone seems like t!Wazza, but I need to take a closer look at that slot

First negative view of either

Conclusion: It’s possible, but the switch to voting PK is interesting. Rating: 7/10

World 4: It’s Leafia
‘Bounty’ is not provable due to PK being scum - and Visionary would know that. Also they’ve been very wagon hoppy and that’s scum AI for them. Rating: 7/10

[Vulgard]

i agree that he seems to have lost wim despite the fact we killed two wolves in the first cycle

[Whysper]

@Vulgard

cloned’s focus on killing the last BD specifically could potentially be wifom because he is the last BD

Yes, this is my thought too. I was saying that he was trying to point to the wagons for PK and Insanity to contain the last BD to deflect from himself.

[Frostwolf103]

@Alice

Like, his recent posts were just going along with the thread’s flow and pressuring Italy/Magnus rather than trying to find the Visionary.

Sounds swell.

[Vulgard]

@Soulshade55r talk to me as well
your current headspace as well as where you intend to go from here

@an

[Zone_Q11]

@Italy

almost everything you do is ignoring information, intentional misinterpretation, or literally just trolling

That tends to happen when someone claims Stalker out of nowhere, accuses my two townreads, and admits of fakeclaiming Stalker after getting beaten up with logic.
Plus… when did I exactly troll so far? I am ignoring your information since I don’t believe it, and FYPOV I might be “intentionally misinterpreting” you, but I don’t recall actively trolling in this game.

[Alice]

It’s yet another postcount read, but I usually see V!Light top-posting but here he just has 131 posts while most of us have over 200.

[Italy]

you literally cherrypick things
i have half a mind to try and get you executed just because a bad prince is more dangerous to town than an actual wolf

[Frostwolf103]

@Moleland

Frostwolf
It’s possible. Even with a town meta read, they could be visionary at this poiny

I will disagree at first motion that the wagon is bussed by own members especially you cant convert night 1.

[Vulgard]

i usually see v!light being an idiot too while this game he’s super reasonable
to an extent this also applies to soul

[Vulgard]

at has 274 posts and is 3rd top poster???
where when what
this is so weird
he typically lowposts as town

[Frostwolf103]

@Frostwolf103

I will disagree at first motion that the wagon is bussed by own members

Considering they thought they are buying Insanity’s claim, they move to PyschoKang.

[Zone_Q11]

@Italy

you literally cherrypick things

Yes, and… you claim that this is my way of “trolling” people?

[Italy]

everything you do is trolling

[Alice]

@Moleland

‘Bounty’ is not provable due to PK being scum - and Visionary would know that. Also they’ve been very wagon hoppy and that’s scum AI for them. Rating: 7/10

They originally wanted to bounty Wazza and then I asked them to bounty PK, so I don’t think a Visionary would do this in the position BD was n1.

[Zone_Q11]

@Italy

everything you do is trolling

So is it safe to say that I shouldn’t be in Allies chat, and that all my reads -good or bad, if there was any good ones in the first place- should be ignored?

[Moleland]

That’s fair.

I forgot to vote

/Vote Cloned cheese