but this game being multiball makes that less of a good argument for N being town
Vul: Complains about wasteful posts.
Also Vul: Triple posts expanding an initial post
i read his entire ISO and he didnāt mention PK/Insanity or interact with them once until EoD
which isnāt the case for a lot of other players, because he actually kept going from player to player and posting reads about them
considering the two were top wagons for the majority of the 2nd half of the day, this looks wolfy
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my bad, i am going to do that way less
i wouldnāt kill n today probably
i still have actual reasons to think heās a villager, which isnāt the case for several other players iāve been focusing on
that said, i would like to see more from him, especially how his reads changed and what he intends to do now
oh yeah alice since youāre here
did you ever post your full takeaways from allies chat aside from āleafia town?ā
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/vote Soulshade
Wanting to see how this develops.
Current VCā¦ I think?
| Voted | Voters | Votes |
|---|---|---|
| Leafia | clonedcheese | 1/12 |
| clonedcheese | Vulgard, ash4fun, Wazza, ATNoName, Leafia | 5/12 |
| Alice | SirDerpsALot | 1/12 |
| Soulshade55r | Surge, Alice | 1/12 |
| Italy | Zone_Q11, Soulshade55r | 2/12 |
| Whysper | Italy | 1/12 |
We didnāt talk much. We basically just planned who to kill and to bounty and TBE claimed as well. AT hasnāt really said much content-wise.
Also Iām pretty sure TBE/Leafia are still strong villagers, so I donāt think we had groupscum there.
Current VCā¦ I think?
| Voted | Voters | Votes |
|---|---|---|
| Leafia | clonedcheese | 1/12 |
| clonedcheese | Vulgard, ash4fun, Wazza, ATNoName, Leafia | 5/12 |
| Alice | SirDerpsALot | 1/12 |
| Soulshade55r | Surge, Alice | 1/12 |
| Italy | Zone_Q11, Soulshade55r | 2/12 |
| Whysper | Italy | 1/12 |
| N | FrostWolf | 1/12 |
Fixed.
On re-read yeah, Clonedās still just a wolf with a vote on the king and on two obvious villagers while half his posts have been off-topic.
also, i am not ignoring mole and i intend to get to him later. i just have other priorities rn
actually no, i donāt.
yeah he is just not BD probably
noting that his reads are a bit better than the reads iāve seen him make as wolf
the reasoning makes more sense.
playstyle-wise heās very similar to his wolfplay though.
where is the readlist?
theoretically looks bad but it makes no sense to say that about insanity and push pk if youāre their partner i think
mole is not BD
thatās still my primary takeaway from moleās ISO
the whole iso feels like
there is no in-depth commentary at all
but itās a slight improvement over what iāve seen him do as wolf
so itās possible heās town?
itās not good but itās better and i see slight differences, like the number and quality of reads
lolmultiball so itās not the best reason for townreading him, just like N, but still
heās also more openly antagonistic toward me
conclusion: slightly better than his usual wolfplay. i see differences in read quality and the extent of his view on the game. has some actual wolfreads and pushes them to some extent, his reasoning isnāt terrible and completely impossible to agree with.
multiball could potentially make it easier for him if heās a wolf, which could lead to these slight improvements. not enough for me to clear him, but itās a step above some of the other players who are under scrutiny today. would not yeet today unless i find a good reason to go there.
derps is probably town because heās still maintaining the garbage vote on alice
ashās posts have been pretty good honestly. probably not good enough for me to place him in towncore, but i follow his thought process and agree with some stuff he said.
soulshade being on italy right now raises some questions.
i am not ever going to clear moleland with his iso being what it currently is. he interjects a lot, but never seems to have many interesting things to say. his interactions regarding the insanity/pk situation make him look fairly good in that sense (probably not BD), but overall, he doesnāt look super towny. the main problem is the fact he doesnāt seem to develop a solid view on the game.
iām also waiting for that readlist which was implied to be promised but never delivered. especially day 2 after his main wolfread was yeeted.
What do you make with N.1? You think his unvote on Insanity when he claimed Fanatic so Insanity shouldnāt be main wagon but still want him dead to confirm mechanically l, which still jettison him over any wagon
i think itās indicative of them not being aligned at all
like alice said, wolf N is bussy. he would totally just vote and try to help bury his partner.
two wolves were being wagoned back then. he would have to commit to a bus, he doesnāt really have the pull to create a villager CFD. not from the position he was in.
the fact he still tried to defend Insanity is something he would be very unlikely to do as a wolf back then, i think. as a BD wolf specifically, i mean.
now, it is still possible for him to be hob, but i feel like he hasnāt really been playing like a hob wolf
for starters, heās not pushing anything hard, and the way he phrases his reads is indicative of town!N vocabulary and methodology
i donāt think hob N just floats in thread while we are arguing about the top wagons, and he absolutely should not care about insanityās fate to the point of trying to defend him. insanity is probably not his partner, and yeeting a BD should be alright with him if he is HoB. i think he would still be more likely to just vote them or something
also i read the āi didnāt read either of the top wagoned people aaaaa i gotta voteā as incredibly genuine.
this post is really weird because it requests insanity to bleed alice for some reason. but it also has openwolf vibes at first glance, and, again, why bother here as wolf!N. you just bury your partner if you are BD, and if you are HoB, you do not care about telling Insanity what to do. he is not your partner, you have no reason to suggest that insanity may be town, especially when the whole game minus a select few is scumreading him.
i think iām convincing myself that n, while being rather lowposty and not having a solid direction to his play, is more likely town than not.
it blatantly calls alice town and then requests insanity to bleed her if heās town, in the same post
i would think that wolf N would be more organized and, you knowā¦ not ask insanity to bleed his townread?
maybe iām missing context here, but i think itās indicative of his thought process being the opposite of rigid and thatās villagery
iām not gonna townshield him all game or anything but i believe N looks significantly better than pretty much everyone else under consideration for death today and thatās the tea
Which it doesnt work that way, doesnāt matter if he got it wrong, he is encouraging to jettison someone else, especially unseen rather than opposite wolf faction. Still itās not far fetched he is no BD wolf and expected to see Fanatic lynch which is still huge waste of day execution