[SFoL] SFoL 63 - Triple Threat: Virtuous - Game Over (4/26) - Blue Dragon (evils) win!

[an_gorta_pratai]

@Zone_Q11

N.1 died with logs, and ash claimed bleed during D1; he should’ve died by now.
Ash cannot be scum. End of story.

Right, but in that tinfoil Ash would have been converted. Looking at it closer I see the flaw in that tinfoil

@Zone_Q11

HoB ded. No third bleeder.

In said tinfoil Ash was the convert with Alice faking a bleed for cred because Ash can “heal” said bleed and “redirect” said death

[Leafia]

Hmmm, I see. Good point honestly.

[ash4fun]

@Whysper

Here’s 3 possibilities I see with Gorta as Visionary:

1. He converted someone N2 and that Heroine killed the same person the Mauraders did
2. He converted someone N2 and that Heroine didn’t kill anyone to cause people to wonder where the kill is
3. He didn’t get a convert N2, but then maybe did the convert N3, which would make the convert Leafia since that’s where he was redirected

Also

4. He converted a marauder N2 and that Heroine did on of the marauder kills

[an_gorta_pratai]

@Whysper

No, the Heroine would be redirect immune

@Zone_Q11

Whysper cannot redirect Heroine, but his possibilities are about you being the Visionary.

I was going to say that I would have my heroine do the attack and claim that as my shot in Visionary!Gorta worlds

[ash4fun]

@an_gorta_pratai

In said tinfoil Ash was the convert with Alice faking a bleed for cred because Ash can “heal” said bleed and “redirect” said death

In that case, were just giving away free info that there’s a convert.

Also not actually bleeding anyone.

[Leafia]

Only two people capable of bleeding and you’re surprised that there wasn’t a third bleed claim?

[Whysper]

@ash4fun

Also

4. He converted a marauder N2 and that Heroine did on of the marauder kills

Ahhh true, that could be

[ash4fun]

Also, everybody has logs -> no Call to Arms yesterday.

[ash4fun]

What did frostwolf do?

[Zone_Q11]

@an_gorta_pratai

@Zone_Q11

HoB ded. No third bleeder.

In said tinfoil Ash was the convert with Alice faking a bleed for cred because Ash can “heal” said bleed and “redirect” said death

“Heal” = Delay
“Redirect” -> Look at N.1

@ash4fun

4. He converted a marauder N2 and that Heroine did on of the marauder kills

That would fall under either 1 or 2.

@an_gorta_pratai

I was going to say that I would have my heroine do the attack and claim that as my shot in Visionary!Gorta worlds

I doubt it, considering how CRich died. (I.e. without CtA.)

@ash4fun

What did frostwolf do?

Unknown. We are waiting for him and Derps’ logs.

[an_gorta_pratai]

Where is the night kill and where are the bleeds? I don’t think the Visionary would somehow miss 2 convert nights, so either the Heroine didn’t kill, one of the Marauders was converted (that kind of makes sense), or the Visionary didn’t convert for 2 nights (which is illogical)

[ash4fun]

@an_gorta_pratai

one of the Marauders was converted (that kind of makes sense),

I think this prob clears leafia/wazza if this flips visionary

[Whysper]

@Zone_Q11

@ash4fun

4. He converted a marauder N2 and that Heroine did on of the marauder kills

That would fall under either 1 or 2.

Yes, it is a more likely explanation for 1 or 2.

[Zone_Q11]

@an_gorta_pratai

Where is the night kill and where are the bleeds?

Ah. You mean third BD bleed. …IDK.
Did anyone keep track of bleeds?

@an_gorta_pratai

so either the Heroine didn’t kill

Possible.

@an_gorta_pratai

one of the Marauders was converted (that kind of makes sense)

They would be killing with Eliminate instead of Valiant Strike.

[Whysper]

@Zone_Q11

They would be killing with Eliminate instead of Valiant Strike.

Right, they would want to particularly use Eliminate instead so that logs are left behind still.

[an_gorta_pratai]

I am telling you that Wazza is probably converted and the visionary could be Frost. The convert is either in Leafia or Wazza and I don’t see scum ever converting Leafia in my opinion. I kind of don’t think Alice is the Visionary anymore, but the thought still lingers.

@ash4fun

I think this prob clears leafia/wazza if this flips visionary

I don’t flip Visionary pal

[ash4fun]

What are alice’s logs again?

ik they bountied the NK twice, what else?

[Alice]

Used gossip on a player. I want SDA/Magnus to out their targets first.

[an_gorta_pratai]

I likely die today, so we need to be careful because the scum could actually win this. Think about it, I die one of the few remaining Vigs, the other vigs are guilt stricken, several people die tonight, and the king is probably evil. I know that if I die today (or any unseen) and the Visionary isn’t in Alice/Frost then tomorrow they have a visionary + 2 converts and a possible BD king, so it becomes mylo

[ash4fun]

do scum win if they have parity but don’t know it?