[SFoL] SFoL 63 - Triple Threat: Virtuous - Game Over (4/26) - Blue Dragon (evils) win!

i have not seen this much investment from italy this early in a while

rand v

i meant above rand v thanks discourse formatting

centuries has 2x as many early reads as i do and iā€™m not sure what it means for his alignment
someone else should weigh in

i think soul is just town honestly
pretty sure heā€™s trying to solve
means less in a multiball but iā€™m somewhat comfortable throwing an early townread there

i think frostā€™s first post is a post he writes as town 99% of the time so iā€™m reading him town based on that alone

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iā€™m around the 330 post mark and mole still hasnā€™t done anything he hadnā€™t done as a wolf before

gutreading derps wolf and itā€™s not omgus

**/vote Intensify

basically i agree with this assessment

/vote Intensify

Oh, I think I had read some early messages, skimmed through a lot of middle messages, then read some messages right before I posted. I saw the vote where Leafia was one of the main two being suspected so far. Also, before the game started, I had read a message from a previous game (something 29?) where Leafia made some outright claim in a long message and tried to say it was obvious she wouldnā€™t lie, but I kept wondering if there was a trick. Haha. So I just got the impression she was tricky. :slight_smile:

But now that Iā€™ve gone through messages more, and especially since I figured out how to focus on an individual, Iā€™ve changed my vote to Surge. Iā€™m actually thinking less and less that Leafia is scum.

Can you accept your reads on Alice are a mixture of bad, awful, Strong-player bias and misunderstanding?

This is baseless shading.

You arenā€™t even saying that it is wolfy.

Your post boils down to ā€œMoleā€™s posts are NAIā€ But said in a way that casts me in the worst possible light without committing to the position.

Yes, but I would still like to vote her for the point I have presented before.

And what reasoning was that?

sethā€™s posts have been rather meh so far
pk isā€¦

the way he openly acknowledges a ā€œscumslipā€ and does nothing with it seems kinda like a frozen wolf
that said i think itā€™s more likely to be village indicative because i could see a villager getting confused there
a wolf could just immediately agree or disagree

i think soul is still really villagery and i have no idea what changed, in the last fol i had reasons to push him as a wolf but here i probably couldnā€™t find any.

i put you in my scumreads earlier i am definitely committing

First of all, at the day start, she is just giving town-cred to basically random people.

She is just setting up for the pocket attempt in the future.

And when people were accusing her, she is basically ruling them as scum for no reason at all.

I couldnā€™t see her as town of any kind.

I refuse. I swore to tunnel him, and breaking my word would make me lose my credibility.
There are a lot of others who have their own vanity wagons, one of them being Intensify. Yet when Intensify responded, you donā€™t seem to bother pushing for him to leave his vanity wagon.


You may think that it is a horrible vote, and perhaps such is also perceived by the general majority.
However, I will not move my vote. If you believe that my change in behavior has not actually changed anything, then I unfortunately cannot do anything about that.


Hrmā€¦ very well. However, if this were to be used on every player, wouldnā€™t you be able to make your reads based on guts alone? I believe that is a bad thing, and something which should be prevented as much as possible.
(Translation: Okay, fine. I understand that you canā€™t explain your gut-scumread on Surge, but please donā€™t do this to other players. --I say this without any consideration whether you do the same to other players or not.)


ā€¦? Why would you hide your other reads this early?


Why would it confuse you? All you have to do is see which wagon has the most voters, right?
ā€“also, why does it matter where the Town is going? Isnā€™t it too early for a VCA anyway?


Uhā€¦ are you sure about that?

Because I might be seeing something else

Especially this one:


No **** Sherlock. Nobody likes Surge FMPOV.
His literal only quality of being towny is TWTBAW.
ā€“actually, replace the first ā€˜Wā€™ with an ā€˜Sā€™, and it would be perfect.


Thatā€™s the thing about Surge; I know heā€™s not ā€œwiseā€ enough to actually fakeslip.
This is why I really donā€™t want to believe he is town; heā€™s TSTBAnything.

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intensify getting bled is funny
itā€™s like wolves wanted to meme and bled the two people most concerned about me getting bled

probably makes him > rand village actually
i know this doesnā€™t make sense but it makes sense in my head

/vote Chloe moving back here

post 558 is another post where she questions townreads and asks questions left and right without reaching many conclusions herself

Your post is a hedge
ā€œIā€™ve seen Mole do this as a wolf beforeā€

That is not a committed scum read. Thatā€™s a scum shade with wriggle room so when I flip Unseen later you have room to back away.

Am I wolfy or simply posting in a way you have seen before?

Town building doesnā€™t equal pocketing though

True, but why does she starts the day by town-creding people?

In past games, I donā€™t really see her doing that as Town.

Because they gave reasoning, unlike you. And as for everyone else who responded, I felt no need to repeat my point of ā€˜Understandableā€™

The last time with a spitevote you managed to convince people to vote away from that person as you seemed petty for it. And because of that PKR got away. Itā€™s a very clear spitevote that Iā€™m not a big fan of it.

Iā€™ve kept the rest of my reads to myself, the only reason I stated Seth is because I put him in my post, the exact thing I did for you.

I donā€™t need to post them, once again I donā€™t want to influence the thread today.

Short-Attention span.

Not when youā€™re trying to read the thread and watching it go back and forth more than a tennis game.

Because the Town should never go into a direction where it confuses other town?

Sheā€™s scumreading me for things I did as Town in around 10 other games on these forums. Including the most recent, JOAT^2.