[SFoL] SFoL 63 - Triple Threat: Virtuous - Game Over (4/26) - Blue Dragon (evils) win!

[Zone_Q11]

@Whysper

Surge has a lot of short statements declaring people town without any explanation, other short comments all over like he’s trying to figure things out, pushing others to explain more when he doesn’t really explain much himself. Also swapping votes around to add confusion and complaining about Chloe lying as a way to vote on her to die.

Long story short: This behavior is normal for Surge IMO.
I don’t expect anything good coming from that slot at all.

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@Alice

Then why even push a lynch on him if his behavior is NAI?

@Wazza

I told you, mainly a gutread.

@Wazza

There’s something off that I can’t really explain apart from saying ‘Gutread’.

You talk about me losing credibility for spitevoting, while you yourself lose credibility for voting someone whom you vote for no other reason than ‘I think he is scum’…
Do you see how hypocritical this is?

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@Wazza

@Zone_Q11

Wazza I can understand, but why Insanity?

Because we both scumread her.

That’s not what I read though. Are you sure you’re not just either lying about Alice to make her look bad, or simply outright ignoring her reasoning?

@Alice

Villagers don’t think like this and their thoughts generally have more grey areas. I’m pretty sure those thoughts were fake which is why I think Insanity has a fairly high chance of being a wolf here.

Welp. I’m about to evaluate his response, so…
“This ought to be fun.” (Sarcasm)

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@Wazza

Coincidence how your top 2 scumreads and the 2 players you want lynched want you lynched.

It’s less a coincidence and more of a “OH MY GOD, YOU SUCK” kind of response though.

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@Insanity

Obviously, I won’t agree on the read of Alice/Surge being on the Town read, same with Leafia being on the scum read.

But I failed to see on why is PKR on your “to-kill” list, same with Wazza but on scum read.

And I believe that Whysper is definitely somewhere in the town read.

Conclusion: Mostly agree.

But anyway, on the topics of Surge, I could see him being TWTBAW, but him acting like that is just, welp, bad.

…interesting. I was actually pointing out to the fact that I also have a lot of townreads, and I wanted to see whether you wanted to point out any sort of criticism to that since you did the same with Alice when you initially misunderstood her readslist, but I guess you didn’t give me any.

PKR’s circumstances is a meta-thing. You’d understand if you read my interaction with Wazza.
My scumread on Wazza was explained in P#914.

I don’t see enough reason to put Whysper on my townreads yet though.
–other than her not scumslipping (yet), that is.

[Moleland]

I usually have a much easy time building better reads Day 2 after a VCA and NKA.

[Vulgard]

light is fairly townie so far
derps isn’t

wazza’s fixation on vanity wagons looks like a wolf fake complaining about the gamestate

@Centuries

I think at first glance

Gorta’s catchup is okay

rand v<

idk how to do proper sentences

i disagree pretty much completely

also, to the people still reading me off my bleed claim for some weird reason
why wouldn’t i claim that if i was bled regardless of my alignment
i wanna get healed as wolf AND as a villager

[Alice]

@Insanity

Yes, but I would still like to vote her for the point I have presented before.

You’re literally admitting that your scumread on me is wrong and still want to vote me. What the fuck?

[Wazza]

@Alice

I’m SR’ing you over the fact that your opener was literally a wall of IIoA and your reads since then have literally just been nonsensical or for flimsy reasons such as reading Intesify and Vulgard as town for bleeding.

You see, it’s hard to believe since I already stated that IloA was my goal when I posted it but I let my reads slip in.
Additionally, you’re scumreading me for a small readslist that 1. Isn’t even fully explained. 2. LIterally contains 7 players in the playerlist. Not to mention you suddenly began scumreading Insanity for scumreading you.

@Zone_Q11

You talk about me losing credibility for spitevoting, while you yourself lose credibility for voting someone whom you vote for no other reason than ‘I think he is scum’…
Do you see how hypocritical this is?

I’m sorry but Gutread =/= Spiteread. Not to mention his very obviously fake townslip despite the fact it was done by someone a moment ago.
This isn’t a situation like Vanillia Nightless when I did it, the way he did it and the way he wanted to get the point across annoyed me.

@Zone_Q11

Are you sure you’re not just either lying about Alice to make her look bad, or simply outright ignoring her reasoning?

It’s sarcasm. I’ve been using it all game so don’t try say that I haven’t.

@Zone_Q11

It’s less a coincidence and more of a “OH MY GOD, YOU SUCK” kind of response though.

Exactly what I’m getting at?

@Zone_Q11

My scumread on Wazza was explained in P#914.

you can scumread me since you literally explained it.

However, I did respond to those points.

[Moleland]

The only thing I can say for sure about it is you Don’t fake a bleed there as a villager.

[Alice]

@Insanity

First of all, at the day start, she is just giving town-cred to basically random people.

@Insanity

She is just setting up for the pocket attempt in the future.

LMAO, it’s called building a towncore. You’re literally fucking using my playstyle as a basis for a fake SR on me.

@Insanity

And when people were accusing her, she is basically ruling them as scum for no reason at all.

PKR accused me, but I TR him. You and Wazza are the only cross scumreads I have.

[Alice]

@Insanity

True, but why does she starts the day by town-creding people?

In past games, I don’t really see her doing that as Town.

Post examples of me doing this?

[Alice]

Not doing this. EBWOP*

[Moleland]

It’s been a while, but does Wolf!Insanity pick a fight with you this early?

[Insanity]

@Alice

EBWOP

I don’t understand this.

[Insanity]

Nvm. Got it.

[Alice]

@Vulgard

i don’t think she’s buddying up to me but i find her rather agreeable this game and that’s her self-claimed wolftell

How the actual fuck have I been agreeable this match when I’ve been literally butting heads nonstop with several people?

[Alice]

@Wazza

I already stated that IloA was my goal when I posted it

…what…

[Vulgard]

PKR wolf
reason: very slow, methodical, and careful with how he’s reading and pushing
i think his village game has more conviction and genuine feelings behind it
read subject to change

[Moleland]

@Alice

@Vulgard

i don’t think she’s buddying up to me but i find her rather agreeable this game and that’s her self-claimed wolftell

How the actual fuck have I been agreeable this match when I’ve been literally butting heads nonstop with several people?

I think you misread

[Vulgard]

i’m still catching up and you started doing that after i posted the initial read

[Moleland]

I think you have more wolfreads than startung scum at this point.

[Wazza]

@Alice

…what…

There’s no way you couldn’t tell that wasn’t my goal? Everyone else saw it straight away and I even said when you said it was that yeah, that’s what it was?

[Vulgard]

i am never catching up on 1100 posts again
seth is town by the way because he started roleplaying dybudabu around #1039

insanity coming in tunneled on alice is… honestly it could be a villager doing this for the sole reason that doing that as a wolf pits you against one of the best villagers on the site (assuming alice is v) and i’m not sure if wolf!insanity wants that at the very start of the game