[SFoL] SFoL 63 - Triple Threat: Virtuous - Game Over (4/26) - Blue Dragon (evils) win!

[Zone_Q11]

@Whysper

Wazza: […] Like I said in an early post, his statements seem reasonable and well thought-out.

Would you mind pointing out which post of Wazza seem reasonable and well thought-out?

@Whysper

Alice : […] She makes reasonable demands for explanation on reads.

Do you happen to remember whose reads she demanded an explanation for?

[N.1]

I can say for sure that the following two players are null for me, though:

Leafia and Seth: Both of these players play in a way which baffles me all the time. Alice is probably better at distinguishing their good baffles from the bad ones, but I am not. Yes, Leafia is one of the best at being immune to meta analysis, but I don’t see her pelt-hunt much in general and attempting to defend herself with self-meta is something I would see her doing regardless of alignment. Hard-self defense as a form of defense doesn’t work, people; I learned that lesson the hard way in SFoL 53. Attacks are the only way. As for seth, I haven’t played with him in a while, and his style of play baffles me noticeably more than leafia, which means he’s probably the hardest player in the game for me to read, even more than Alice.

[Moleland]

So he’s unqualified? Does that make him wolfy

[Whysper]

@Zone_Q11

Is that so? Then, what do you think of Chloe, Alice, Wazza and Insanity?

–actually, this might be too much for you to take all at once. Let’s start with Chloe first. Her posts are usually wallposts, but I believe they are not that bad once you get used to them.

Please ISO Chloe, and tell me what you think of her.

Hmmm, now that I’ve gone through Chloe’s posts, I’m getting a scum vibe. Maybe this is just her personality, but I’m seeing lots of complaining about going through posts. Yet she does a lot of RTs like voting on people with little explanation, then saying she was just checking. So obviously she wants more to go through. Also her push for people to just quickly vote makes me suspect she’s trying to get people to form quick opinions without thinking through much.

Then the whole bleed thing. She seems to be complaining a lot about people discussing it. I’m actually getting a wild thought that maybe Chloe did the bleed just to stir things up. I felt it would be stupid for Vul to fake it so early. And people talk about how the bleeds are useful later and someone wouldn’t waste them. But maybe someone like Chloe would use it at the beginning just for checking reactions.

[Whysper]

Okay, maybe I’ll go through Wazza and Alice again for another look and to find those posts.

[Alice]

A villager tries to solve games. To solve a game by making comparative reads like that you need to see if a player is doing that actions as town as well meanwhile he’s basically just BS’ing. He doesn’t care if his read on me is real and thus is not bothering to solve, which points to him being a likely wolf.

[ATNoName]

btw for anyone who missed my Allies post. Does anyone agree with the Allies being Alice/Vulgard/TBE?

[N.1]

I can say that the following is the player that I’m pretty sure I dislike the most so far:

SoulShade: As I pointed out when I went through the first 60% of the thread, he has a propensity for wasting posts referring to mech that is clearly viewable in the OP. He also seems to make reads left and right that he either fails to justify completely, or only justifies in an extremely lazy, weak way.

With that,
/vote SoulShade55r

[TheBlueElixir]

havent read up cant stay

im bleeding

[N.1]

@TheBlueElixir

havent read up cant stay

im bleeding

vulgard to null then

[ATNoName]

Is 3 bleeds even possible?

[Zone_Q11]

@ATNoName

Why does this feel like this was made by a wolf?

Which part of his readlist felt wolfy?

@ATNoName

Upon further inspection, the only thing I don’t like is why Alice?

Really? Nothing said about gorta and cheese, who didn’t even make 10 posts by the time TBE made that post? Only Alice?

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@Leafia

@Zone_Q11

I am curious which post it was, because you seem to be somewhat trusting N around 200 posts before you started scumleaning him.

I don’t remember trustuing N.1 and I can’t even remember any of his posts at the moment admittedly.

I see. Very well.

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@Wazza

@Alice

What did you plan to accomplish with the IIoA?

To show that I’m paying attention in this game for once unlike other games? I wanted to get it established that yes I am going to do things this game since I’m seemingly getting a reputation as a Town who doesn’t want to do things.

Congratulations. You have shown us that you are paying attention. (No sarcasm.)

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@Alice

Which kind of adds back into the question of him claiming that making towncores isn’t my meta. He hasn’t played with me in a long while and clearly hasn’t read any games that I played, so why make that read?

Isn’t it possible that he -like any other human- simply forgot how you once played, and started to spout false information without the intent to do so?

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@Insanity

@Alice

Literally anyone who’s played at least one game with me knows that I’m the kind of person who tries to build a towncore d1. Again, point to a game where I didn’t build a towncore d1?

Yes, you do, but the problem is that you give multiple towncred rapidly. usually you would also do some in depth analysis too, but in here, you didn’t do that.

@Alice, respond to this.

[TheBlueElixir]

• someone lies
• they rolled a convert with bleeds
• town bleed

[Alice]

People who I’m putting in my towncore.

• Alice
• Vulgard
• TBE
• Surge
• Intensify
• Zone
• Frost
• Italy

People who are indepedently villagery.

• SDA
• Soulshade
• PKR
• Whysper
• Centuries
• ash

People who I’d rather solve by mech.

• Leafia
• Magnus

People I’m conflicted.

• Moleland
• N

People who I wouldn’t mind dying.

• gorta
• Light
• Chloe
• Psycho Kang
• Cloned

People who need to die.

• Insanity
• Wazza

[N.1]

either we have a poacher who stupidly wasted a bleed early, we have an alchemist, hunter, and/or surgeon, or someone is lying

[Vulgard]

thinking n has been consistently villagery
i don’t think anything he’s posted was in bad faith

[ATNoName]

@Zone_Q11

Really? Nothing said about gorta and cheese, who didn’t even make 10 posts by the time TBE made that post? Only Alice?

I would criticize gorta, but TBE did have some doubt with putting gorta and cloned in the scumread list (which is said by the question marks next to the name)

[Whysper]

@ATNoName

btw for anyone who missed my Allies post. Does anyone agree with the Allies being Alice/Vulgard/TBE?

I would agree on Alice and Vulgard. Not sure on TBE. I was leaning towards town for him, but not sure if there would be someone better.

[Alice]

@Zone_Q11

Isn’t it possible that he -like any other human- simply forgot how you once played, and started to spout false information without the intent to do so?

Why even make a false read like that I don’t make towncores then and then repeatedly misrep why I’m SR’ing them?

Overall Insanity’s play here looks to be more about malice rather than ineptitude.

[Alice]

@Zone_Q11

@Alice, respond to this.

What is there to make an in-depth analysis right during the start of D1?

Only thing I have to go then is basically tonal reads and the like.