[SFoL] SFoL 67: Last Stand of the Virtuous III - Endgame - The Unseen and The Senex are victorious!

[Leafia]

Me neither honestly. In fact, I think it is NK.

[Intensify]

@KyoDaz

@Intensify

What I’m supposed to do, one man wagon the low posters?

Didn’t you literally critisice Ciri for not wanting to start 1 man wagons?

Sorta.

But also the reasoning is completely off.

Ciri doesn’t start a one man wagon on someone they scumread and decide to push a wagon on a null read, because it makes better VCA Analysis???

@KyoDaz

@Intensify

No I was : |

No you weren’t. EoD votecount shows Coconuts voting first. Regardless if you voted then unvoted then voted, it still doesn’t change the fact Coconuts was a very early (and even the earliest voter in the EoD votecount) voter

Ok man, didn’t you say you read everything?

I unvoted Ciri and entertained Coconut’s YBW push

And then Coconut disappointed me, so I went back to voting your slot.

Not hard to get if you read everything.

@KyoDaz

@Intensify

Coconuts if I recall, voted you very late after their YBW push failed horribly.

Coconuts was the first voter on my wagon according to EoD votecount. That’s not correct.

People unvote? I’m very sure they self-pres’d you very later on. Unless I’m going insane.

@KyoDaz

@Intensify

The literal TWTBAW read that your previous slot owner made on a slot that flipped wolf all of a sudden.

You’re criticising Ciri for that? If I recall correctly, @Leafia has the exact same read yet voted Coconuts. Do you also scumread them for that?
I also have NO idea why you continue to scumread self-preservation voting.

Yeah of my criticisms of your slot.

Leafia’s special.

Literally.

I’ve gone through my thought process and how literally almost every post of her’s is scummy, but that’s meta stuff and it makes it hard for me to judge her off of it.

Also don’t act like that this is the only point against you.

@KyoDaz

@Intensify

You wanna explain?

I’ll entertain your case for only a few points.

Shrug.

Better than nothing.

@Leafia

The careful analysis in the second part that you quoted and what I’m saying is that Ciri could’ve potentially saved both themselves and Coconuts had they built up a case on PKR who wasn’t far behind them.

Can you quote what I quoted?
I don’t see any careful analysis.

@ATNoName

@Intensify

Didn’t we go over how like half of them were fluff or pointless?

You said that, not me. All of this post says to me Aelin SRed Emilia/GGhana and never planning on rescind.

And all of those posts aside from 1 I believe told me it was fluff or jokes.

@ATNoName

@Intensify

eah but.

Silviu didn’t have 200 posts when I talked about Whysper being scummy.
Silviu didn’t even post day 1 I think.

Def not Silviu was beating Whysper in post before all of that.

When did I start talking about Whysper’s slot?

Halfway through the GT?

At that point, Silviu definitely would not have had 200 posts like you claim.

@ATNoName

@Intensify

I believed what I believe was correct logic. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Ahh yes, defense by calling yourself delusional.

: |
Where the hell am I calling myself delusional.
I’m saying I believed my logic.

Is it that hard to think that I would have a bit of confidence in my reads?

@ATNoName

@Intensify

You have a post from Aelin.

I interpt it as memeing and not actually serious.

You fault me for not asking it was serious or not when I had no reason to suspect it wasn’t serious.

This is what I’m getting at.

Like I said, doublechecking is a thing.

Ah yes.

Let’s double check every fluff post that any slot has every made JUST INCASE IT’S RELEVANT.

What are you getting at here.

@ATNoName

Honestly, Intensify needs to die. If they’re town, this is a terrible example of townplay and it is a war crime to still be alive. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is NK.

Literally it’s tooken us 2 hours for someone to refute my points (I assume that’s what Kyo is posting right now).

[Leafia]

@Leafia

I doubt that if Ciri was scumbuddies with Coconuts that Ciri would’ve voted for Coconuts even if to save themselves. They likely would’ve caused someone else, possibly PKR, and tried to get him executed in order to save themselves and their scumbuddy, because getting PKR executed over them probably wouldn’t have been very difficult.

This.

[Intensify]

I mean I’ve already talked about this.

W/W voting each other isn’t shocking.

Why would PKR try to save them.

I know PKR has… uhh done some things before regarding saving people, but PKR literally has no reason to save both of them??

[KyoDaz]

@Intensify

It’s not fleshed out, and even after asking, she still hasn’t given us any examples of her thought process or why she thought this read.

Ciri did explain this read.

@Ciri

@Whysper i for some reason no longer have the notification of a reply to you but when backreading during the night i remembered that you asked me to give my reasoning as to why intensify has weird vibes
it’s because his posts feel very ‘performative’, although i think a better word to describe them would be ‘fabricated’
an example of this would be how he phrases his post on leafia giving a contradiction as meaning they’re solid scum
the way his posts are don’t sit right with me

It’s these type of obvious incorrect statements that make me not want to reply to this case at all.

@Intensify

This example is really bad and takes things out of context. They think me seeing a contradiction and using it as a scumread is scummy, when if you look at the context, me literally finding a contrdiction in Leafia’s posts would’ve meant that she was scum who was trying to derpclear herself.

You very desicively stated “Leaf is scum. They just contradicted themselves”
All they did was give what they thought King’s starting info was. And you immediately said they were scum. Like, you didn’t even analyse their posts which is evident because you were wrong. They didn’t contradict themselves. You just leapt at Leafia when you saw a reason to scumread them.

@Intensify

I just realized this recently, but the post I made that they’re talking out, was made after she made that W read on me, meaning that this isn’t even part of her reasoning, which leaves more holes in her reads that don’t seemingly get explained ever.

Which holes in Leafia’s reads?

@Intensify

I don’t know about you, but like I literally said, they made their first W read post on me, before I even talked about contrdictions. As you can see, they are literally lying about why they’re wolfreading me.

Either that, or their read is extremely baseless as they only provide one fricking example.

The read isn’t baseless. Your performative posting is present in a lot of your posting. There’s a reason why Ciri called it an example and not a case.

@Intensify

This feels like they just want to take away credibility from Wazzer’s flip.

Okay well this is obviously incorrect now because GGhana flipped fool so that theory is busted

This is pointless commenting on this case it’s all obviously incorrect even at a glance

[Leafia]

I’m not talking about PKR saving them. I’m talking about Ciri pushing for PKR to be the execution.

[ATNoName]

@Intensify

And all of those posts aside from 1 I believe told me it was fluff or jokes.

and now you are wrong what does that conclude? Scum.

@Intensify

When did I start talking about Whysper’s slot?

Halfway through the GT?

At that point, Silviu definitely would not have had 200 posts like you claim.

When I challenged you to read Whysper’s slot?

@Intensify

Ah yes.

Let’s double check every fluff post that any slot has every made JUST INCASE IT’S RELEVANT.

What are you getting at here.

Considering you were so active, why not do so instead of pressuring lowposters?

@Intensify

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Where the hell am I calling myself delusional.
I’m saying I believed my logic.

Is it that hard to think that I would have a bit of confidence in my reads?

If you were confident, you would have present a reason or two that isn’t they were underwhelming.

[Intensify]

@KyoDaz

@Intensify

It’s not fleshed out, and even after asking, she still hasn’t given us any examples of her thought process or why she thought this read.

Ciri did explain this read.

@Ciri

@Whysper i for some reason no longer have the notification of a reply to you but when backreading during the night i remembered that you asked me to give my reasoning as to why intensify has weird vibes

it’s because his posts feel very ‘performative’, although i think a better word to describe them would be ‘fabricated’
an example of this would be how he phrases his post on leafia giving a contradiction as meaning they’re solid scum
the way his posts are don’t sit right with me

It’s these type of obvious incorrect statements that make me not want to reply to this case at all.

I’ve discussed this.

The example Ciri given isn’t good.

Literally mentioned this in the wallpost, it only addresses one post that was made after the initial read.

The original reasonings of the read are still unknown but aren’t exact.

@KyoDaz

@Intensify

This example is really bad and takes things out of context. They think me seeing a contradiction and using it as a scumread is scummy, when if you look at the context, me literally finding a contrdiction in Leafia’s posts would’ve meant that she was scum who was trying to derpclear herself.

You very desicively stated “Leaf is scum. They just contradicted themselves”
All they did was give what they thought King’s starting info was. And you immediately said they were scum. Like, you didn’t even analyse their posts which is evident because you were wrong. They didn’t contradict themselves. You just leapt at Leafia when you saw a reason to scumread them.

Wasn’t it “scum knows whether or not King is good or not?” Pretty sure Leafia lying there indicates she was trying to derpclear herself, which is basically grounds for a scumread.

@KyoDaz

@Intensify

I don’t know about you, but like I literally said, they made their first W read post on me, before I even talked about contrdictions. As you can see, they are literally lying about why they’re wolfreading me.

Either that, or their read is extremely baseless as they only provide one fricking example.

The read isn’t baseless. Your performative posting is present in a lot of your posting. There’s a reason why Ciri called it an example and not a case.

THEN POINT IT OUT.

Except, they take forever to respond to anything and don’t give any more examples.

@KyoDaz

@Intensify

This feels like they just want to take away credibility from Wazzer’s flip.

Okay well this is obviously incorrect now because GGhana flipped fool so that theory is busted

Ok that’s fair.

@Leafia

I’m not talking about PKR saving them. I’m talking about Ciri pushing for PKR to be the execution.

It was like 30 minutes until EoD, I don’t think they could case PKR when he doesn’t have much to begin with at the time.

@ATNoName

@Intensify

And all of those posts aside from 1 I believe told me it was fluff or jokes.

and now you are wrong what does that conclude? Scum.

???
So I’m wrong about 1 post and suddenly I’m scum…?

@ATNoName

@Intensify

When did I start talking about Whysper’s slot?

Halfway through the GT?

At that point, Silviu definitely would not have had 200 posts like you claim.

When I challenged you to read Whysper’s slot?

Yeah but when was that.

@ATNoName

@Intensify

Ah yes.

Let’s double check every fluff post that any slot has every made JUST INCASE IT’S RELEVANT.

What are you getting at here.

Considering you were so active, why not do so instead of pressuring lowposters?

NoName is this a joke.

You want me to go through every post I think is fluff, and ask if it’s serious or not.

@ATNoName

@Intensify

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Where the hell am I calling myself delusional.
I’m saying I believed my logic.

Is it that hard to think that I would have a bit of confidence in my reads?

If you were confident, you would have present a reason or two that isn’t they were underwhelming.

I mean, I literally pointed out things I didn’t like about their ISO.

Of course, they got resolved yes.

But it doesn’t mean I didn’t believe in them any more less when they weren’t resolved.

[Intensify]

@KyoDaz

@Intensify

I just realized this recently, but the post I made that they’re talking out, was made after she made that W read on me, meaning that this isn’t even part of her reasoning, which leaves more holes in her reads that don’t seemingly get explained ever.

Which holes in Leafia’s reads?

I’m referring to Ciri’s read.

[Bacon_is_Executed]

Holy fucking shit, how many wall posts are happening today

[Intensify]

As much as I need to cram it into people that there’s no way Kyo is ever town like this.

And I guess NoName’s thing on me, but idk, they want me to do things such as question every fluff post from what I can tell, so not sure about them.

I do admit, I am lazy at time, but like… why does it feel like the expectations for me are so high every damn time.

[ATNoName]

@Intensify

???
So I’m wrong about 1 post and suddenly I’m scum…?

10 post* thats a long of post to be wrong about.

@Intensify

NoName is this a joke.

You want me to go through every post I think is fluff, and ask if it’s serious or not.

Yes because theres a chance you may have misread the post. The fact that I didn’t need to ask Aelin if his post is serious or not and got it correct shows that you have no intention to solve.

@Intensify

I mean, I literally pointed out things I didn’t like about their ISO.

Of course, they got resolved yes.

But it doesn’t mean I didn’t believe in them any more less when they weren’t resolved.

Hmm let see,

you put whysper at leaning scum when they should be Null.
You put Wazza/Leafia at Nulltown when they should put Townread
You put Coconut at leaning scum when they should be scumread
You put Gorta at Null when they should be locktown

Yeah right.

[Intensify]

…

Ok NoName.

What are your expectations of me.

Like I’m almost legit done with you.

[ATNoName]

At my level.

[Intensify]

: |

Okay.

Sure that’s something to go with I guess.

And do you have the expectation that I will have the same reads as you and that I know everything that you know?

[ATNoName]

yep, I’m not putting it any lower since you claim to read everything.

[Intensify]

Why does everyone think so self-centeredly…

And also I don’t recall claiming to have read everything.

Unless you expect me to have perfect memory of everything?

[Atlas]

Everyone except me shouldn’t, because I am right about everything

[Intensify]

What are you even suspecting me for actually, or are you just sheeping Blasphemer?

I think you said that my posts look performative, yet I see no examples.

Maybe that was me just misremembering things though

[ATNoName]

@Intensify

Why does everyone think so self-centeredly…

It’s just you. If I thought so self-centered, I would have policied Leafia for continously derailing thread.