SFOL39: Triple Threat 3 - How not to scum (Game over. Blue Dragon and Usurper King Win)

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#8047

I’m glad I was able to make BD confused with my ghost kills, it even got me confused when I was pinged about it in death chat

#8048

You outright claimed an unique class and I had my scout on you since d1, so since you were not converted nor likely starting scum then you were pretty much lock-BD to me.

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#8049

but it doesnt show if cult converts him

#8050

It shows either conversions in this setup.

#8051

also marl outting as merc D1 boring

#8052

Polling time

This game featured Pretender and Usurper King for the first time. How good/engaging did you find having this class in the game?

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If you had to pick one, which of these was the biggest issue with class?

  • Too BD sided
  • Investigative Power too precise
  • It’s Boring
  • Win condition too easy
  • Other (Specify)

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In regards to the Investigative Power, which of these is closet to your own feelings

  • It was fine as it is
  • It should give a class type (EG: Killer) AND if they are Royal
  • It should give a class type (EG: Offensive) ONLY if they are Royal
  • It should only detect if the target is Royal or not.

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I was a lot stricter on Activity this game, going so far as to replace someone. Do you feel I was…

  • Too Lax
  • Too Strict
  • Just Right

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I was stricter at enforcing game rules this game, with a number of unofficial and official warnings being given out. Was I…

  • Too Harsh
  • Fair
  • Too Lax still

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Hoe much did you enjoy Triple Threat 3?

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Did the inclusion of neutrals…

  • Enhance the game.
  • Detract from the game
  • Make no difference.

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Would you like to see neutrals again in TT4?

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  • Don’t Know

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#8053

pretender is too hard to win with

#8054

Explain

#8055

also strat to win as pretender
Stab king N1
Claim d2
Get voted by scum

Ez

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#8056

That’s more a problem with the class inherently by design.

It requires a specific player to die, then you have to be either more confirmed / beg hard enough to get king.

After that you have to not die, which is surprisingly difficult.

#8057

But Bd can just lynch it out even if it does that :thinking:

#8058

its basicly alchemist but harder since you need to also become king

#8059

Alchemist is a lot more town sided as it can heal people though.

#8060

Pretender is also inherently BD sided because it provides better information than a Princess ever would and it is (is it in FoL?) immune to death once. It’s just a better Princess.

#8061

However I’m not saying that’s bad. There are pro-town neuts and pro-scum neuts and there’s always some counterbalance.

#8062

Hence why I prefer ‘Class type only if Royal’ option. Doesn’t make it better than Princess that way.

#8063

The problem with Pretender may be that outing yourself when king dies and begging for crown (hoping that scum votes you) seems to be the only play with a realistic chance to win. At least I saw it as the only way for me since the beginning and only hesitated a little when GK died too early. Not a very fun strategy, of course.

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#8064

That does seem like the most logical thing to do, because you need to win the favour of the court later on, so a BD-aligned neutral would be in play.

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#8065

They can, they effectively waste a day though, and if you outted as pretender later it’s the same thing

#8066

100% winrate continues

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