Ok actually nevermind, I had an RT planned, but it wouldn’t work here, not enough people
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arete/chloe interactions
…there is 0 penalty for hitting town and arete is condemned…
the condemned shouldnt out themself unless under pressure, true
I say this because then maybe scum might waste a nightkill on a condemned if their V
but considering this is unprecedented, eh
…you dont believe in this.
Preformative 
fake 
im going to explain Chloe as if Chloe = Blue in terms of how we think - I dont think its all that opposite
We deal with stronger players in baby steps - particularly if said stronger player is townread, it feels futile to push them, so yeah, we work it up a little bit in our head because it is big for us. We dont come out of the blue saying ‘They are a scumread’, we tone it down a bit then still get ancy, while still thinking we could really be onto something.
does this make sense?
I know I say ‘we’ alot. Its how I think, and how I think chloe was thinking.
why I say I dont think you believe in your read is because I think you understand that to an extent already - chloe was afraid to little afraid to push you, and you call it out on perspective slips.
note;
I do think its performative, but I dont think thats exclusive to W!Chloe
dont think this is AI for you
saying their a good player shouldnt invalidate TRs from meta
well I was wrong
both statements here are sour
me believing chloe believes in read
me believing chloe believes in these reasons
because particularly this reason - they’re just bad
like, both of these arent good reasons
first - just because their good doesnt mean they can directly copy meta perfectly?
second - the idea that Arete knew it through and through doesnt make a ton of sense purely because…nearly anyone wouldve claimed it, whether I think its a good idea or not, it wouldve happened
and third - if Wazza already knew the question, repetition is rather useless, just throwing some pressure is better and glad it happened
but I do believe(see below) your read isnt naught
chloe’s reasons for W!Arete are bad
theres not really a way around it - their just…not good
however I do think Arete is a wolf, just because they have been just kinda existing. They ask questions, give alright answers and every read theyve made I can go like, ‘i guess that makes sense’. Its like, what theyve done is almost like it appeals to consensus, and doesnt go too far. Its just…‘hi yes, i agree, here look at this A means B’
Communism intensifies
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Also I would also oppose to Arete lonch, since they essentially claimed what they were and was backed up by 2 different people
I kinda also wanna do this sadly, but something is telling me this is the wrong lonch, but then something else is also telling me it might be right and AHHHHHHHH
I come online
I see this
Fuck you
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Woah Woah Highway calm down
the ‘confirmed’ ability still means they could be
n1 convert(either faction)
second starting cult
but I see what you mean
(also had a bit of intentional pre flipping written but also maybe not)
Remember: #7
We Hunt The People behind the scheme, not the converts
Pretty simple, make sure to hunt the MM/CL first, not the converts to make sure we save time and energy.
Fair enough, but I feel more comfortable leaving them for now. Of course, this is a possibilty I haven’t thought about yet, so I’m going to take that into consideration now
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I’m going to macro them later
Their tone is weird and I think everything should be obvious later
for now they’ve been engaged so I’m kind of okay with them living
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starting apostle would chose from these alts
- false confirm on other scum
- utility
- false confirm
yeah I dont think this gives much insight, though personally id probably take Martyr
There are ‘interesting things’ that arete has done
Their engagement with the game has fluctuated a lot and to extremes
but realistically
what macro case is there for an arete scum world
case feels bad faith as a result because it pokes at flaws that don’t really tell a bigger picture
of course, if you have more, then post it
but this doesn’t actually tell anything
nah idc about that
im not being executed today
i just wish he didnt do it because it fucked a lot of things up
what takes
yes
i dont really have any other words than yes
thank you
This is… the main reason I’m pushing Arete, but you don’t agree with my reasons? Im confused
I feel like most of the things they have posted have been to make it look like they’re giving info, but they aren’t following up with anything. Like the Wazza question - I understand they voted him later but it was after someone else asked the same question, and i feel like they shoulda made sure Wazza answered it themself
I do believe in my reasons. Some of them might be not-very-strong, but I think they’re valid. Some are bigger than others.
Yes this is what I have been going on - but I didn’t want to post this tinfoil because people will focus on it. People focus on mech shit a lot - but ye
cult alts with Commoner abils exist
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Macro confuses me
I feel like ive provided a macro case - it feels like theyre just
existing
on the sidelines
watching shit happen
and they pop in every once-in-a-while to say things that dont lead anywhere - and dont make conclusions after asking questions
boop
Other reasons I thought you were going off of
and some ‘meta bad’
admittedly I thought there was more here
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The real me says meta bad. The fake me says meta bad. Conclusion: Meta bad unless on very specific people
After trying to gimmick tbe’s slot by reading the previous person:
- Math didn’t fall into the traps I would expect new scum to do (mainly regarding tmi and stilted reads)
- Extreme hedge but is justified by being new player
so, kinda nulltown