SFoL62 - Regal Lions - Cult and Oneiromancer Victory!

[anon6348071]

Out of curiosity, have you done anything last night?
Simple yes or no answer is enough. I don’t want details.

[TheBlueElixir]

you get a

bing bong bing bong

yes!

[an_gorta_pratai]

also ask me for any reads you want me to make

[Centuries]

tbe is here

yes

[TheBlueElixir]

also

feel bad for mode

i do think he scum purely off of his allies choices

[Centuries]

back to eating toothpaste now (paste adhesive get it)

[TheBlueElixir]

also

hot take

I think that pick-4-player abil is actually good

[TheBlueElixir]

I remember some discussion on that

but it doesnt lock out a groupscum lynch unless one of them openwolves

otherwise, you have to see how they react to not a RT of getting power, actually doing it

[TheBlueElixir]

time to dip once more

I will read thread eventually

[anon6348071]

@TheBlueElixir

I think that pick-4-player abil is actually good

I think it has potential to be good if utilized properly.
If utilized improperly it’s -EV for us, and Seth is not the strongest player.

The Allies pick as well as his absence at EoD makes me doubt him but at the same time, read through his D1.
It doesn’t feel like usual scum Seth but there’s a chance his meta is just evolving.
So I’m somewhat torn on him right now.

[Arete]

@TheBlueElixir

but it doesnt lock out a groupscum lynch unless one of them openwolves

only if the groupscum you want to exe is outed

otherwise one of them can just be like ‘I disagree on your read on [wolfy wolf], how about instead we compromise on [wolfy villager]’

[PokemonKidRyan]

This is correct… well, somewhat.
All it takes is someone being persistent enough and the lynch will not go on one person as it requires a unanimous decision, not just majority.

Coming to the conclusion it’s an openwolf stopping a wolf lynch is a bit too much of a jump as it could just be town refusing to lynch someone they read as town (or have info secretly that the person is town).

It is kinda a gambling game at that point if it’s a 3-1 decision. As motivation will be essential to draw any usable conclusions.

[UnknownTraveler]

@Arete

I don’t think it really counts as 82 OMGUSing when they were pushing Jane first

Meh maybe ahh… actually. Gonna go think about it I guess. Eighty’s “excellent” defense might be good then, but I’ll think about it

[PokemonKidRyan]

Gdi Arete, you literally beat me to it >.>
How many times does this happen to me…

[EightySecond]

Looking at the bystanders during that charade:

UnknownTraveler

@UnknownTraveler

Hmm if I wish there was thread with this entire forum’s meme history… but there isn’t sadly

@UnknownTraveler

That isn’t the best defense

@UnknownTraveler

@EightySecond

To your credit, this is the kind of push that comes from a wrong villager more often than a wolf.

Because most wolves don’t do pushes this weak and then fully justify it with “well it happened last game!”.

@UnknownTraveler

That isn’t the best defense

I don’t need to defend myself from a single vote.

Even if it’s a single vote, I would still defend against a single vote.

@UnknownTraveler

I have no idea what is going on, just like Psycho Kang, but I feel like I trust Jane more right now in this situation

@UnknownTraveler

Ok cancel that nevermind. I don’t trust both of them, Imma reread this cuase I’m legit confused

PsychoKang

@EliThePsycho

I think that Jane is probably scum, considering that vote. Unless it’s that classic fallacy of
“Scumread somebody because they scumread you”

@EliThePsycho

What’s a TMI?

@EliThePsycho

First of all, remind me what an OMGUS is.
Second of all, is this some kind of W/W?

@EliThePsycho

@Jane

@anon6348071

I’m not really seeing the TMI here?

Is it really that hard to see that only villagers have actual reads?

I don’t think that answers the TMI.

@EliThePsycho

@Jane

then why didn’t you say you thought I was faking overconfidence

Wait, didn’t he say that? I’m getting really confused here.

Arete

@Arete

unlike Jaleb Jane has never made one of my friends quit an entire site

Centuries

@Centuries

jane’s play is really similar to joat9

earlier i wouldnt have said the same

dunno

Blizer

@Blizer

Uhh

how is that TMI jane?

cause I really dont see anything that looks like it.

@Blizer

Yeah

that’s really not TMI tbh

I have no idea what your seeing, but this looks not great tbh.

Anstreim

@anon6348071

So I mostly wanted to observe this, but I find it somewhat strange that EightySecond didn’t really refute Jane’s points when one of them is pretty much false – unless I’m misreading something?

Jane, you said:

@Jane

So, you’re scumleaning me because you think I’m overconfident in my reads, or just in general?

To which they replied:

@EightySecond

To answer the first question: No, but it isn’t helping

I’m not really seeing the TMI here? You asked them if they think you are overconfident in your reads because you think that them replying “yes” means they have TMI.
But they replied with “no”.

Not to mention that:

@Jane

I guess wolves just like discrediting my pushes on them with shade.

This isn’t really defense/argument.

But the fact that their defense is literally just “OMGUS” makes me wonder.

@Jane

You can try to discredit me as much as you want.

In your eyes them discrediting you is calling your conclusion OMGUS, correct?

@anon6348071

@EliThePsycho

OMGUS

“Oh my god you suck”, accusing/scumreading someone just because they accuse/scumread you.

I don’t think this is theatrics right now, the whole thing was unprompted. But I want to hear more from both sides.

@anon6348071

@Jane

Is it really that hard to see that only villagers have actual reads?

What is this even supposed to mean.
You didn’t really address my main point – her read on you was “light SL” on a basis that she disliked some of your posts + the fact that you reminded her of someone she despises (which is not a proper read of any kind so I’m just going to ignore this part).

So there was an actual reason, even if it was weak.
I’m still not seeing the TMI.

Chloe

@Chloe

Aaa

This feels hella T/T tbh

Cant quote rn but i dont think this OMGUS push comes from scum - especially so early and without being… really… pushed first? Jane reads as genuine - and the TMI argument imo comes from a town mindset. Its so incredibly weird and wrong that i dont see a wolf doing this lmao

Eighty has good tone and genuine solveyness
Not deathtunneling
Considering worlds where jane is just being a bad villager
Providing reads that are Out There without fear

@Chloe

Jane

Take a breather and realize that youre now tunneling this and viewing everything she says as wolfy

Go make a case that doesnt rely on OMGUS and see if you come out with a new perspective

@Chloe

And if you dont then cool

Keep ur vote

This text box is very hard to navigate so I’ll come to conclusions in a following post.

I would also encourage others to come to their own conclusions.

[UnknownTraveler]

Hmmm interesting. Thank you for Eighty

[Chloe]

Think that chloe chick is town

[Chloe]

This is my way of saying that i cant do a lot rn but im skimmin n readin along

Ayaya

[UnknownTraveler]

Erm, ok then. I feel like Centuries just popping in there and defending Jane, and then popping out is a little odd. But probably me stretching it

[PokemonKidRyan]

I like Centuries overall, but Centuries does do some odd things as any faction so that is NAI imo.
Could be wrong, yet that is my interpretation of Centuries Meta.