SFoL65: Reminiscence Of Adiart Village - True Ending - Blue Dragon, Village and Merchant wins!

[Marluxion]

@Cheeki

@Marluxion

Because my first instinct was that it was a wolf/wolf interaction

@Marluxion

Not sure why specifically but it just felt wrong

This still doesn’t answer why you thought min/light was specifically wolf/wolf, unless you’ll concede that it was literally just a baseless gut read after your min vote

@Cheeki

/vote Marluxion @Twil1ight

@Aelin

It’s not like people aren’t allowed to have gut instincts.

I agree and understand that sometimes following your gut can be good, but to label an interaction like that as specifically w/w based purely on gut seems more than odd to me. that sets my gut off.

@Aelin

It’s interesting how hard you’re latching into this

interesting how, let’s speak openly

@Cheeki

My initial post on Marluxion wasn’t even really pushing him, it was only me making clear how weird I thought the ‘w/w read’ was. It was only after we got bogged down with the toast stuff that I’m pushing somewhat

these

[Nightingale]

Let me read Cheeki spew
but Leafia is really not that bad, especially compared to the wolfgame meta I know of them

[Marluxion]

did you see her earlier ‘slip’ btw?

[Nightingale]

one might even say
outer:
eli
chop min
leafia

inner
shurian light sdal

[Nightingale]

yeah
her explanation isn’t obvious BS

[Marluxion]

thank you for your service nightingale

[Nightingale]

@Cheeki

@Leafia

Hmmm, with how much early pressure Min is getting here, Min just might be town.

uhh I don’t see the reasoning
explain/elaborate please

@Cheeki

finish off these reads and whatever, but I want your opinion on the major interactions that have happened, not just individual players.
These little mini reads just aren’t too helpful atm imo

hahahahahahahaha

[Nightingale]

Cheeki to me looks here like they want to look helpful and they want to do so by shoving pressure onto Leafia

[Nightingale]

Although the first post is largely irrelevant
The second post just feels a bit weird for a wolf to be interacting with W!leafia in this way when they’ve only been interacting with now-locktowns marl and wind

[Nightingale]

Admittedly the cheeki/leafia interactions do look slightly different than the ones with marl/wind/wazza
but they look very far from Cheeki’s super awkward chainsaw on Min and Light

could go either way but I don’t think Leafia should be an Inner PoE slot rn

[WindwardAway]

ISO on Cheeki

@Cheeki

@Marluxion

Because my first instinct was that it was a wolf/wolf interaction

@Marluxion

Not sure why specifically but it just felt wrong

This still doesn’t answer why you thought min/light was specifically wolf/wolf, unless you’ll concede that it was literally just a baseless gut read after your min vote

@Cheeki

/vote Marluxion @Twil1ight

@Aelin

It’s not like people aren’t allowed to have gut instincts.

I agree and understand that sometimes following your gut can be good, but to label an interaction like that as specifically w/w based purely on gut seems more than odd to me. that sets my gut off.

@Aelin

It’s interesting how hard you’re latching into this

interesting how, let’s speak openly

@Cheeki

an intensify lynch is close to the last thing I would do today, they have been active and pushing for info

@WindwardAway

and also because I think Intensify’s vote on Min at the start of the game was opportunistic as he just wagoned them with everyone else.

you want to talk about opportunistic? this wagon smells SO SO BAD

@Cheeki

@Wazza

I get voted for King since I’m confirmed BD King now.

I’m a genius!

scumreading wazza hard, horrible plan, horrible posts overall. this wagon comes so soon after mention of scum being able to get parity early after OP was read
/vote Wazza @Twil1ight

@Cheeki

It’s funny how quickly YBW’s tune changes when Marl says he thinks there’s a wolf between us. Went straight from super-hedgy ‘just a gut read bro’ ‘just a pressure vote’ ‘his defense could have come from villager’, to ‘Cheeki Wolf’. Absolutely stinks of self-preservation over all else

Voting YBW as soon as chief elections are over, though Gorta/Leafia would be fine in my eyes too. Gorta because his derpclear feels super engineered, and Leafia because their tone in thread + their opportunistic push on me yesterday

@Cheeki

I want a claim from YBW as well obviously, but I also want Leafia/Gorta’s claim for reasons stated earlier

@Cheeki

i am trying to find a situation where YBW isn’t just scum pushing me because he got thunderdomed with me (Frame, swap etc)
There is literally no role YBW could be here which absolves him, and this seems like a sincere push on me. At the risk of OMGUS ;
/vote YouButWorse @Twil1ight

@Cheeki

i’m not throwing shade, i’m saying the idea that you had some mechanical-based confidence at SoD doesn’t come across in those posts at all, nightingale does, which is why nightingale believes your ‘check’

@Cheeki

what framers would frame as redcheck though, i don’t see them
i only see counterfeiter, and at this point I wouldn’t believe YBW if he said ‘rt bro’

@Cheeki

I’d understand lynching me if literally any other player besides YBW was the person to claim a redcheck, with the exception of Gorta/Leafia

@Cheeki

I’ve been scumreading Leafia since D1 based on tone, but hell yeah I’m for the plan that doesn’t take the person who I personally as of today know is 100% scum (YBW) at his word.
/Vote Shurian @Twil1ight

So the interesting thing about Cheeki is that they OMGUS vote YBW in an effort to self-pres, and they pretty consistently push Leafia and Gorta (both of whom, if town, are pretty easy LHFs, although I’m not really sure if they’re town or not in this game).
But at the end of the day, probably as a self-pres with absolutely no reasoning behind it whatsoever or with anything to make it seem like Cheeki was actually SRing Shurian, Cheeki voted Shurian. It’s probably because Shurian was just the other option, as YBW never got counterwagoned against Cheeki, but I could consider that Cheeki’s vote might have been a spew in Shurian’s direction. Cheeki never said anything at all during the game that made it look like they would be SRing Shurian.

Does Cheeki ever spew the scumteam, does anyone know? I’ve never played with them before so I have no meta on them, and I found them scummy for reasons other than meta, but I’m wondering if we can read Leafia, Gorta or Shurian at all off them. Of the three of those, Shurian looks the worst, and Leafia and Gorta are roughly in the same spot because Cheeki treats both of them similarly in the thread.

[Marluxion]

@Shurian who’s class type did you check last night

[Arctic]

hello willage

[Nightingale]

Shurian self-pres vote is gth NAI
Cheeki is forced to do that from the most basic village PoV

gorta and leafia interactions could go either way because they’re markedly different from their interactions with marl/wind/wazza
I think Leafia interactions are slightly a good look but not sure, Gorta ones are pretty ehh
I think there’s a considerable chance that Cheeki just never found the occurrance to interact with half of their wolfteam

[WindwardAway]

I have a couple more things to check and I want to ISO Shurian and Min hopefully before EoD. Gonna take a break and pretend I’m adulting, so be back in a bit!

[Arctic]

this real merchant is a legend for not cc’ing me yet

[WindwardAway]

real merchant is honkman
and honkman is a towngod

[Marluxion]

@Arctic who’d you sell to last night
no need to out item just who

[Marluxion]

and how much gold did you get

[WindwardAway]

actually he answered that earlier