Shortnight 2: Return of the POGGERS - Day 5 [6/15] - Mafoa win, Everybody (including chloe) loses

I have never seen chocolate kill a person though
In most cases if you die from it’s from underlying health problems that you didn’t take care of

Again

id think the big 3 (Marsh, Arete, Chleb)

really do benefit off of a Marl kill tbh, even if they look bad from it, it still benefits them in quite a bit of ways

yes and Occam’s razor applies to two of them, doesn’t it?

She could be pocketing the entire marsh wagon by saying “i townread everyone on that wagon”

it exists

and leafia saying they gonna try to lynch FK after marshal, even though earlier they said they were gonna kill chleb after marshal

kinda shows that lol

I would much rather argue with the argument of “why is marl dead” then trying to wrestle marluxion to the ground

that may be me personally

I mean either or both of Chloe and Arete
not necessarily both at the same time but possible

tho

It really does

occams razor doesnt apply to marshal, but he does benefit from a marl kill, because of that occams razor exactly

that’s actually a good point, I didn’t think of that because I didn’t notice

yes that’s definitely a thing

Like

No matter what

all 3 should just die

i only think FK should replace someone if he aint by d4

(my problem is that I’m super paranoid about pocketing attempts but last game here I successfully evaded a pocket attempt like 5x and then jumped straight into someone else’s pocket instead lol)

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My also like main issue with Chleb

they dont believe Wolfs would bus here in Mountanious

when they actually benefit off of a bus massively

just… by very flawed logic, I had the game sort of solved and then way overthought it and convinced myself I was wrong lol

this is also why I don’t like changing my mind at the drop of a hat

I could see it go either way tbh
I don’t personally think bussing so early is great, but there’s no PR shenanigans to solve so you’re also right in that they can totally get away with it.

by the way

one of the problems with my playstyle (that I think Arete pointed out) is that it looks like I’m fitting conclusions into reasons instead of the other way around. It’s partly because I tend to solve by mech/actions, which doesn’t really work in mountainous, and it really drops a lot off my solving skills so I’ve had to rely on other methods here. I look for scumtells, I draw a preliminary conclusion, and then I throw the conclusion back into other parts of the thread to see if it still makes sense.
I really shouldn’t be solving off roles in the first place in FM so honestly it’s probably a good thing?
the other thing I can say is that I spent a night chat listening to Eevee coach me on finding wolves, so I am literally attempting to apply it here to the best of my understanding (which might not be that great), but I have enough faith in my reads that I am still pretty sure there are at least 2 wolves in my PoE anyway.

Here is the thing

Wolves have two objectives here

get themselves into towncore

and both kill and mislynch town

Bussing a teammate, espically off of wolf theater, can greatly benefit as it propels the wolf deep into towncore, which allows them to mislynch and even bus their other wolf partner to keep up the act

They biggest issue is, and this also effects alot of the other wolf methods aswell

town questions why the slot has not been killed by wolfs yet

idk I remember reading an article saying that bussing should only be done as a last resort
on the other hand I feel like I see it done all the time at least on this site, and also fairly early? so maybe it’s not the best strategy but it does exist as a strategy and people use it.

Its not the best

but it can generate the best results from wolves in a good portion of scenarios

Not any more. Litten is the wolfiest looking player after Marshal right now. At the moment, I’m tinfoiling a Marshal, Litten, Blizer world.