Shortnight 2: Return of the POGGERS - Day 5 [6/15] - Mafoa win, Everybody (including chloe) loses

Leafia · January 30, 2021, 4:53pm

Your fellow wolves have given up on saving you.

Blizer · January 30, 2021, 4:53pm

Fuck it

/vote Chloe

I believe

Blizer · January 30, 2021, 4:53pm

Let’s Rand it

Poggers

sulit · January 30, 2021, 4:53pm

i cant decide what is the best use of my time

Firekitten · January 30, 2021, 4:53pm

We need 4 more votes, I think at least, I think this is actually achievable

Firekitten · January 30, 2021, 4:54pm

voting Chloe is better use of your time

Chloe · January 30, 2021, 4:54pm

Yeah this was predictable

Leafia · January 30, 2021, 4:54pm

Fair enough.

Firekitten · January 30, 2021, 4:54pm

Chloe · January 30, 2021, 4:54pm

Why am i now liklier wolf than arete

Marshal · January 30, 2021, 4:54pm

arete’s post and thread stuff lead to chloe wagon dissapearing and me sticking at 5 votes

let’s flip her

arete could be wrong, or I could be wrong on arete and chloe is a wolf

this is the best bet over flipping me and getting nowhere

Marluxion · January 30, 2021, 4:54pm

Ban Count

Getting Banned	Banners	Votes to be Banned
Marshal	Chloe, Centuries, WindwardAway, Leafia,	4/7
Chloe	Marshal, Firekitten, Blizer	3/7
Firekitten	Arete,	1/7
Arete	an_gorta_pratai,	1/7
Not Voting	Grace, sulit, Light, osieorb18	4

Yell at me or another Host/VC Bot if this VC is wrong.

Firekitten · January 30, 2021, 4:54pm

i am so happy now

Chloe · January 30, 2021, 4:55pm

It took you THIS long to get into the same mindset ive had regarding your slot

Marshal · January 30, 2021, 4:55pm

I find it less likely that arete, as wolf, defends us v/v than arete being villager and being wrong on you

sulit · January 30, 2021, 4:55pm

Do Light’s reads on Trochi actually have like

a pretty good history for being accurate?

Leafia · January 30, 2021, 4:55pm

Wolfy as anything else you mean. You aren’t villagery in the slightest and you know it.

Marshal · January 30, 2021, 4:55pm

i’m wolfcasing you

you aren’t my first option but if it’s me vs. you i’ll throw it all at ya

Firekitten · January 30, 2021, 4:56pm

@Aelin
@sulit
@WindwardAway
@an_gorta_pratai
@Grace

Dunk on chloe with us

Chloe · January 30, 2021, 4:56pm

Chloe:

I legit cannot wake up
Im so incredibly exhausted and any effort I try to put into a legacy ends up being a clump of useless words

So instead i’ll just throw out some random thoughts to keep in mind because i might fall asleep or get cfd’d to.

Arete almost never does this as a wolf if Marshal is a villager. (Aka, if marshal flips town today, Arete is more than likely town. If marshal flips wolf today, its TBD, because arete could legit just be super wrong).

Don’t treat Leafia like she’s an idiot. Work with her. She’s basically a doublevote if she sees you as town so… show her you’re town. People like to complain that we’re fucked because Leafia is pocketable and wolves will control her and that isnt a good use of our time. She’s her own person, shes providing unique takes, and being rude to her will just make it more likely that she doesnt want to listen to you.

Leafia please work together with Blizer if I happen to go over here or somehow (lol) die tonight. Otherwise I think you should be homies with Light. Idk. Use your intuition, you got this.

I still think sulit wolf, but I legit feel bad for thinking sulit wolf. I also think sulit/marshal have a lot of w/w equity, but this shouldnt be sheeped.

Trochi went UTR today and needs to be sorted. I think they were wolfier than they were towny, and (i agree with arete that) one of the towniest things theyve done is not know how evo died, apparently. But troch has done this kind of thing as wolf so im not putting ton of stock into it

GTH Town: Leafia, Grace, Light, Blizer, Gorta (unless w/w with Marshal), Conroy*, Wind*

Conroy and Wind are mostly based on how I felt about them pre-arete-wall. Depending on flips today (if fk flips wolf, or marshal flips town) they could look worse and i’d 100% drop them from my gth town. I’d like to re-eval these slots anyways

Find other villagers. Stop pointing fingers. If everyone is in PoE and there is no indication of consensus townreads, there is a huge problem. Don’t force townreads, but instead actively look for villagers rather than actively looking for a pelt.

I know I have a shit ton of posts (and im really sorry ugh, weh) but if i die, wolves might use my posts/reads to push agenda. Remember to always consider context. my iso is long and wolves might count on people straight up refusing to read it. Check sources, and make sure there isnt bad faith when quoting something i said.

The last thought on my mind is that I find Marshal/Arete/Sulit to still be the most likely team but I’m not nearly as confident in this as I once was. If Marshal flips v, arete is likely v. And also, fk flips w, arete is likely v. Basically… re-eval based on the flip. Don’t lock into a team and go “x was a wolf!! That means y HAS to be a wolf!!”

Re-read the game with the flip in mind. Its a LOT of posts, but the more villagers who do this, the less likely it is that events of d1/d2 are used to push agenda.

Don’t be stupid.

Reposting