Shortnight 2: Return of the POGGERS - Day 5 [6/15] - Mafoa win, Everybody (including chloe) loses

[Firekitten]

this may be mafia theory but it has some good nuggets

[Blizer]

@Firekitten

Thirdly, there’s the player who’s actively trying to solve not necessarily in line with the status quo but is mostly ignored . This player archetype in an unfavorable gamestate has some overlap with the one directly above it, which makes sense as both are usually town. This player’s reads might be more correct than those of their louder counterparts, but for whatever reason they’re not listened to. Take a look at this player when they deliver their reads and try to chart out the reactions and responses to said reads. Are they briefly discussed before the line of conversation fizzles out in favor of more familiar subjects? This might be something worth exploring and following through on. The one caveat to this is that the player has less of a chance of being town than the above archetype, because there’s always the danger that the player could be a wolf simply looking to set up a mislynch down the line once other options have been exhausted, or even a villager unknowingly pushing a mislynch that the wolves are leaving alive for the same reason. As always, context is king.

why do i feel this is applied to light lol

[Firekitten]

@Firekitten

Probably the player archetype most difficult to categorize in these gamestates is the player currently at the bottom of the POE , because their reason for being there is so game-specific. Who is pushing the slot? Have they been saved in the past, and if so, by who? Could it be a wolf bailed out by their team? A villager being kept around by the wolfteam to be lynchbait and to focus the town’s attentions away from what truly matters? There is no one all-purpose answer here. However, it’s a good bet that the bulk of the players’ attention will be focused around this player and this slot. It might be more worth your time to try to solve around the slot rather than adding your own voice to the mix on this specific matter.

I think this one would apply to Chloe at the start of the day

[Blizer]

also its applied to Gorta aswell tbh

[Firekitten]

Even if they weren’t bottom POE people wanted them dead

[Blizer]

same can be like

applied to you aswell tbh

cause previous day this is where you were for some people aswell

[Chloe]

@Firekitten

A villager being kept around by the wolfteam to be lynchbait and to focus the town’s attentions away from what truly matters?

[Centuries]

@Firekitten

Firstly, we have the player quietly in the POE but isn’t really pushed

and

@Firekitten

the player who’s actively trying to solve not necessarily in line with the status quo but is mostly i

what

[Centuries]

why is the article being misused so hard

[Blizer]

uhh

what do you mean?

just like clairify it for me a bit

[Firekitten]

one important thing to realize I’m a control freak as scum

if something important is happening in the thread against one of my partners I would be advising them, not like, just sitting there talking about ranch

[Firekitten]

I think Gorta might just be a wolf with the game state

[Firekitten]

but who are the other wolves

[WindwardAway]

@Firekitten

I’m rereading your posts right now and you said here that you town read Sulit, what gave you that town read there?

I have no idea tbh
I think it was just because I didn’t see anything particularly wolfy until Chloe started firing questions at her, but I guess she just had a stressed response because she hadn’t been super active in the game.

@Firekitten

i dn’t think anyone can ever top this type of analysis

/shrug
At this point it’s not like I can make it look better so I don’t really care

@Firekitten

can you elaborate on why you felt this confident about this

At that point I thought Chloe was a wolf, I guess? I felt confident about it because people were SRing her almost universally, and then wagoning her but also kind of jumping off her. I don’t remember at what point I wrote that quote but people have been just as quick to get off the Chloe wagons as they have been to get on.
I think I also said really early that Chloe should die regardless of alignment before LyLo because her slot is so problematic that it might cause an ML losing the game for town, and I still kind of stand by that, but we have very little leeway now for MLs so I don’t really know if it’s a good idea to yeet her before LyLo.
Also I just assumed every FM game ends in LyLo unless we yeet all the wolves at the beginning, which we didn’t do here, so that’s why I keep saying stuff about LyLo. It’s not that I have TMI, I just made an assumption, and it started from someone else bringing up the problem of Chloe in LyLo on D1 as I recall, so I just went off that tbh.

@Firekitten

unironically, I believe this is fake

like, if you were to think there is 4 wolves and then realize there was 3 that would be fine

but this doesn’t rlly make sense

That was me forgetting I read the OP and I have no excuse for it tbh
Like I actually did think for 5 seconds that there were 4 wolves and was wondering why I had been so dead certain there were 3 before, but considering that info is in the OP it just means I read the OP and then forgot I read it… Which is dumb, regardless of alignment. I tried to cover for that derp but it didn’t really work out I guess.

@Firekitten

I started reading what happened when I was asleep and I just realized this string of posts happened. I’m not really confident on it, however, I feel like these types of posts are…just admitting to be a wolf?

Seriously if you’re going to SR me just fucking vote me??? Like this has been going on for days where people SR me but don’t vote me for whatever reason. only Sulit and Leafia have so far, and Sulit got yeeted. I still really feel like wolves are trying to keep me until the last possible moment so I can either incorrectly tunnel or get misyeeted in LyLo but if that’s a dumb assumption and we aren’t supposed to assume there’s a LyLo, I suggest you just yeet me now so I can stop dealing with this game.

[Centuries]

@Firekitten

Thirdly, there’s the player who’s actively trying to solve not necessarily in line with the status quo but is mostly ignored

we dont have this

gorta went for status quo
light isn’t trying to solve

no one fits that

[Firekitten]

wind while you are here why did you type gg when giving up

[Chloe]

FK look me in the eyes

Are you a villager

Bc if so
We should
Look at what people did surrounding our tunnels

[Firekitten]

yes I’m a villager

[Chloe]

Are you sure

[Firekitten]

no I need to go check my Rolecard apparently it’s a thing where people have trouble remembering their alignment