no, I’m signalling to my scum partners to bus me, duh
I’m asking you if you think I’m a wolf openwolfing or if you think I’m town openwolfing
Look this is the second morning in a row where I lay my arguments then you proceed to self vote + ate and then 30 minutes later you’re back on me after having ignored all my posts
I’m not going to try and twist this into “oh you’re probably openwolfing as town for some fun joke”
idk, I find the lack of wagons weird because the last time this happened was on D1 (?) I believe
I have to go back and look to make sure I got that right
I find the circular voting to be weirder, though. This is a bad way of reading votes but I think there’s a wolf within those four and possibly two trying to avoid voting each other out today.
idk why you think I’m ok with the status quo but I guess I would’ve categorized myself there according to the article FK posted anyway
the status quo right now is not saying to yeet you, though
Gorta has literally not been here for most of the game so I have no idea if he’s ok with the status quo or not. I really only saw him SR Arete and Chloe, then say he’s not sure about Chloe anymore.
let me ask you, then. why do you think people aren’t listening to you?
it’s not a fun joke, it’s an actual strategy.
you expressed uncertainty on my slot both times immediately after I voted myself, though
so on a scale of 1-10 with 10 being most likely, how likely do you think it is that I’m a wolf right now?
The status quo isn’t listening to me
And I feel like the only one who has my POV here
So obviously I’m going to go agaisnt it
Also I’m pretty sure the status quo at least semi-goes agaisnt me here
Then he’s fine with the status quo? That’s pretty much it?
Because you are
You’re not fighting it. Means you’re OK with it.
?
This RT feels like desesperate more than anything else if it’s a genuine one.
Yeah no shit because I’d feel terrible if you were to ever flip town
Well seeing how much I have going agiasnt you rn 9/10
Moreover I really don’t think this question is ever useful seeing how your read on me is not going to evolve so IDK why you’re asking me this
Also I’m genuinely aware that Chloe will want to vote me if it’s Me vs You despite everything that you have going agaisnt you, just because she wants to kill in her/fk/me
And I’m willing to take the bet that I can convince her that my pov is correct.
But seeing how you reacted to my posts I legit see no reason why you aren’t a wolf from your play today
If you’re V you’re legit pushing the wolf agenda for them btw, so when/if I flip it will go agaisnt you, I hope you’re aware of that in the off chance you’re not W
I don’t remember him claiming to have low WiM? but I have low WiM yet I’m a compulsive poster because I like solving games
even if I think I’m totally solving them wrong, but that just results in conflicting feelings so weh.
If everything is fakeable from the perspective of a wolf, how do we go about clearing people? What is it that’s supposed to tell us whether their words are genuine or not?
I mostly just remember FK calling for a Chloe yeet every single day tbh
I don’t know if that means he is or isn’t fine with the game state but maybe I really should read everything from SoD4 since I skipped pretty much all of it. I might just be missing information but i was trying to work with what I currently see instead of what people posted however many hours ago.
I’m trying to assess which of Marl’s, Arete’s, Osie’s and Sulit’s reads are worth taking into account. A good number of their reads point to you being scum??? and some of them point to FK being scum as well. Some of them also point to me being scum. But I’m trying to find the greatest common denominator between them and I feel like your slot fits that criterion.
I never said you had 0 townie posts. I just said you didn’t have any posts that I 100% related to where I was absolutely certain your thought process was genuine, in comparison to how I feel about FK’s and Chloe’s slots.
I read games differently from everyone else. I don’t just slap a townread on a wallposter or slap a scumread on someone voting totally wrong. I know it looks like I find trivial things to clear people off but I do think they matter more than people generally attribute to them. I’m an aggressive FM player and I have a “prove me wrong” method. Usually I would come up with a mech-based night strategy that has a decent chance of bringing down a wolf, but this is mountainous and I can’t use that method to prove people’s alignments here. So I’m resorting to any other methods I can think at this point of that aren’t just consensus reading methods, because so far the consensus is wrong.
You could be saying this as either alignment, so this doesn’t really say anything at all to me tbh. You keep accusing me of reading all your posts as scumtells when that’s not at all what I’ve done, and here we go down the misunderstanding trail again. All I said is that you’ve posted a lot, you’ve given your thoughts, but I don’t know what’s real or not. That doesn’t mean I am 100% certain you will flip wolf. I literally said it’s likely whoever I vote anyway will not be a wolf. But I have to vote someone, and if I’m not supposed to vote myself, I’m going to vote someone I think has a chance of flipping wolf.
I legitimately thought your reactions to me were weird. Maybe I just don’t know how to reaction read but I stand by that claim.
Honestly, I thought at least some of your takes were good. But even wolves can have good takes, so yes, I was being lazy by going “this looks decent, probably town”.
this is what I said earlier on in the game but people keep doing it and then asking other people to do it so shrug
actually this is a valid point
and you’re right in that case because a consensus SR is extremely suspicious
but again, if you’re pretty much consensus SR, why has nobody voted you out yet? same with me, if I’m consensus SR why has nobody voted me out yet?
and what about Chloe? she had a shit ton of SRs on her earlier in the game but they all just sort of poofed after Arete was killed.
I just think we need to kill a slot that’s being highly SR’d to use it as a clear for some people, honestly. You’re in that position and I’m in that position. I don’t think Chloe is anymore so lol.
The thing is that I am willing to just volunteer myself to get yeeted here so you guys have another day to revise your reads and you don’t have to deal with me in LyLo. I don’t even think yeeting you, whatever you flip, is going to clear anyone. But I’m voting for the sake of voting, because someone told me to vote someone, and not because I really think my vote is going to matter here. I haven’t tipped any wagons but I’ve conveniently been on all the town consensus wagons that have yeeted town so far, and honestly if EVO were still in the game I probably would’ve tried to yeet him too. I don’t remember whether I thought anything at all about Chloe’s accusation of EVO doing a TMI, but I just thought he looked sort of scummy at first glance and that’s as far as I got with my read on him before he got modkilled.
I hate yeeting for info but if we’re doing such a terrible job at hitting scum with our votes, I’m willing to at least yeet for info if I think it will help us to solve the game, and that’s why I wanted to vote myself this time. I already explained that I thought it might clear FK, although maybe my reasoning is wrong and it doesn’t really clear him.
Literally any team with Leafia is a dumb team because literally no one besides Osie bothered to reevaluate her slot at all up until now. I voted her and then she got weirded out by my vote and my reasoning and voted me back. But now she’s on Light so I have no clue what’s going on with her slot.
Why would wolves push me here when there are plenty of other targets to push? You do realize that the people still alive, with the exception of Grace, are all slots that can be misread and ML’d in LyLo?? Chloe, FK, you and I all fit that description extremely well. And unless three of us are wolves and one is town, it’s a very good position for the wolves to be in because it sets them up for LyLo in the event they lose a wolf to execution before that.
In fact, it’s even better if all three of you are wolves and you just push me until LyLo and then everyone else yeets me, but if that world exists then there’s no way at all town is winning this game.
I actually didn’t say it’s you/Leafia/Gorta right now. I’m not pushing Gorta today; I changed my mind because I need time to reassess him fairly. I did say you/Leafia but why is that dumb? I know all of my scumteams have been dumb, but so what? You could compare it to the likelihood chart you made earlier in the game where you rated all the possible scumteams on how likely they would be to exist, but you never put yourself in any of them (obviously from your pov) so there’s really no explanation I can see for why exactly a you/Leafia team would be dumb. What do you want me to do, look at the number of times you’ve interacted and what you’ve interacted on to prove whether or not you’ve been distancing?
wolves lose from you dying? what does that mean, if you die as town isn’t that a point in the wolves’ favor? the only one I can imagine being heavily implicated in your death is actually Blizer.
but you’ve been wagoned, unlike me. Nobody has wagoned me, and I’m still alive, and I’m also not a wolf. you were wagoned and then people hopped off (including me) in favor of voting out Sulit. I’ve just never been wagoned at all in this game and I find that even weirder.
wouldn’t it make sense for wolves to kind of hop on their partner for towncred and then jump off again, as opposed to just completely avoiding the slot by going “yeah this is wolfy” and not doing anything at all with it?
I thought scum liked killing slots they did care about.
and also, I’m pretty sure there was resistance to your wagon so I don’t think you’re entirely correct in saying it means you’re town because the wolves didn’t want you dead.
you could literally apply the same reasoning to me because you said there’s resistance to my wagon when literally nobody is wagoning me, and say the wolves don’t want me dead.
this is honestly why I think you guys should vote me out
get rid of wolfy players, what the fuck are you guys doing dancing around my slot? I’ve been objectively wolfy the entire game and you just let me live for unclear reasons.
you’ll get some clears if you vote me out so I think it’s actually in your best interest.
like what is the resistance to putting me in the PoE? I see I’m in everyone’s scumread PoEs but not in their wagon PoEs.
I thought I’d make it easier for you by voting myself but it’s not working because I tried to vote myself at a time when most of the players weren’t awake.
when the rest of you get back on, vote me if you think I’m a wolf.
like who is stopping you guys from voting me? I’m not stopping you, I’ve been encouraging you to vote me out for a couple days now.
if you want the game state to be healthier then I should be voted out instead of allowing me to spew nonsense for 4 days.
I see Chloe kind of stopping me from getting wagoned every time, so maybe she’s actually a wolf defending my slot. This is a dumb take, but it does exist.
Ban Count
| Getting Banned | Banners | Votes to be Banned |
|---|---|---|
| Chloe | Light, WindwardAway | 2/5 |
| WindwardAway | Centuries | 1/5 |
| Leafia | Firekitten | 1/5 |
| Light | Leafia | 1/5 |
| Firekitten | Chloe | 1/5 |
| Not Voting | an_gorta_pratai, Grace, Blizer | 3 |