I think sorc should passive should be changed so besides knights and night immune targets she will not attack members of the unseen/cult. She will still not know who the unseen/cult is but at least she won’t be able to randomly kill them, and she will still lose a night if she accidentally targets one of them. If this would make her too powerful she could be nerfed somewhere else, like making her dust single target again or removing her immunity to poison/bleeding.
Sorcerer already has some big advantages. You almost might as well make it an unseen/cult class with those changes
While I don’t think Sorcerer particularly needs buffing either, there is a large difference between not killing the unseen/cult and knowing who they are. With the former, you waste a night, and don’t know that the reason you didn’t attack is because the were unseen/cult or if they got guarded or were night immune (a quality Mastermind already has anyway).
So if I attack a target and it doesn’t die or is immune. I will now know who unseen are…
You don’t know if they are immune or not however. Just that you didn’t attack them.
You either
A: Kill them (unless they were healed)
B: get the message that you felt danger and didn’t attack as a result
C: Hit the inquisitors night immunity.
Anything else looks exactly like those 3 options.
Sorcerer is fine, the only changes that it needs are removing or reworking inquisitor so it isn’t a hardcounter and making circle of death usable on any night. And maybe replacing magic dust with another ability. That’s it.
If you’re talking about sorcerer, then magic dust is not “half the class”. And it doesn’t even have to be removed, it could be replaced with another ability. If you’re talking about inquisitor, then that’s fine as hardcounters shouldn’t even exist.
No it’s not. It makes Sorcerer harder than it should be, and hardcounters should not even exist.
I was talking about the inquis. And you misunderstand my conclusion. The sorc is NOT fine right now.
The Inquis idea is fine because Sorcerer has an easy time getting along with the evil faction. Imagine how much easier it would be to win with Serial Killer if it won with Mafia?
Sorcerer is not fine because of inquisitor. The class itself is fine, it just needs circle of death to be usable at all times.
That doesn’t change my point. Hardcounters shouldn’t even exist. They are easy to win(especially if they hardcounter an evil class), and are overpowered against the class that they hardcounter And Town of salem is a very different game from throne of lies.
My point is that Sorcerer has a number of advantages…
The biggest change Sorcerer needs is to have Circle of Death be Self-targetable
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This doesn’t need to be a thing for sorcerer, because they can win without cult/unseen
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I just want it to be harder for inq to win. You can afk and win…i have done it.
Gameplay Rule 4: Try not to go AFK (Away From Keyboard) while playing the game, as this might affect the game.
Please avoid non-participation (even when doing so to prove a point) in future games 
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If you remove inquisitor/ make the sorc not attack unseen/cult then the sorc is just an extra unseen, with an evil king it can go to 5 unseen at the start, n4 and they got majority
The inquisitor is made to balance the sorc win condition. Yes inquisitor winrate should be the highest win rate in the game because he can win almost every game that the natural killer doesn’t win.
I’ve seen alot of MM who out the sorc after failing to kill/convert them. The sorc/ evil should find and wishper each other and work togethor. then the sorc win rate will increase.
Meh I wasn’t “afk” but you get the point .
Also I noticed it said try not to lol. I tried but failed.
I just hate that Inq keeps his abilities more than anything.
It’s crazy terrible in a cult game where you can’t ever kill him with your limited killing ability and he just goes down the line killing and outting everyone.
And honestly… even if he didn’t exist, I don’t think Sorc would win that much. The Win Condition isn’t exactly easy. I’ve seen it happen like once ever and it was pure dumb luck and stupidity from the BD that it happened.
Sorc needs a way to get a message to Evil, not that it matters since half the time they bus the Sorc anyway.
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