actually, since you and I were working off opposite assumptions, that might already cover some ground.
yeah, that was me lol
I gave thought to that already
and my line of reasoning was that mafia could have known GonZ was a watcher if they knew the ninja sleepwalker claim came from town, or at the very least, not scum
I think Eevee insinuated something along those lines too.
PKR could be right and he’s just being mega set up right now by the mafia, but on the other hand I knew what he was hinting at already when he asked Cloned to claim, and I also figured out what Cloned was when he didn’t want to claim his role (I thought it was pretty obvious and had it narrowed down to a town protective role at that point because PKR had claimed town invest and another invest claim might have tried to thunderdome PKR in a less obvious way, but a protective wouldn’t want to claim under any circumstance).
That being said, PKR did try to thunderdome EVO for the redcheck claim at first, and I’d give him some town points for it. Not because I think he should have, as town (nor do I think he should’ve been publicly outing all the town PRs but ehh, they were too quick to out themselves as well so it’s hard to say), but because it’s significantly risky for scum to thunderdome a town investigative against a scum investigative unless they’re willing to take a loss, or if they already know the EVO’s claim is fake and that he will rescind it (and PKR’s cop claim on Cloned says otherwise, unless he was taking another huge gamble).
it only worries them if they have all PRs left and the town PRs have claimed the remaining town PR slots (which gives mafia a list of kill targets and town something to work with mostly only once they’re dead).
if mafia has at least one goon, a town vanilla cop is somewhat to their benefit depending on how the cop interprets the information. If the cop assumes they’re only searching for PRs, the goon(s) slip by. If the cop outs every single PR they find, it forces the PRs to either claim or awkwardly refuse to claim (in Cloned’s case, which spewed him as town protective imo). That works way more to scum’s advantage than town’s because mafia learn the town PRs, town PRs end up checking each other, and the non-PR town doesn’t really know what to do with the information until there’s a hardclear or the PR dies and flips. So as either alignment, I think the town vanilla cop benefits scum more than it benefits town, unless the cop chooses to keep their information hidden, doesn’t soft their role, and successfully protects slots they believe to be town PRs. And that’s a lot of things for the cop to keep in mind, and I wouldn’t expect that they’d be able to do all of that at once.
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lads just read my thing and vote eli this is free, no need to think about it. either that or we lynch eevee
my gut says either 3 mafia or 2 mafia and neutral, and eevee giving heavy neutral vibes
someone needs to give a good case against Eli to convince me he’s scum tbh
I’m not going to vote him if I think he’s town.
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either that or eevee. both of them are sacks of potatoes right now, but i highly prefer eli
I’m personally uncertain about suspecting Eli, similar to Wind.
I know my vote was present on them yesterday.
And further to this… I have today acknowledged that the fact that the wagon dissipated throughout the day further feels to me like mafia might have been meddling in the incident.
However, I’m trying to profile Eli and the trait of having “low WiM” is something which kinda feels like town at the moment since we have accomplished nothing.
We had an anti-town tying of the wagons which we got lucky on
We had a town lynch
And an anti-town nolynch which caused an anti-town neutral to win
It would be no surprise for a town member to lack WiM after these events. Town this game has nothing to pride ourselves in.
And since I had said this earlier, Eevee too dipped. However, I would think that this could be performative. Unfortunately though, I am aware that Eevee might just have irl circumstances surrounding this so I am taking a stab in the dark by scumreading them via this along with other reasons.
I mean the case is that Aelin scumread Eli but never voted them day 2, but I’d argue that Aelin was distracted by the lol/EVO wagons more to not really care about Eli, regardless of whether he was town or scum.
and i wouldn’t say low motivation is AI at all, today there’s like 2 people doing anything
They didn’t unvote?
They voted me after for memes and then Marl after for memes as well.
idk i think their interaction is the suspicious part, but if you want to lynch pkr go ahead