(I can only think of 2 PRs that result in not self-pres’ing and one is jester)
You said that Aelin TMI’d Marl as town.
You also reach conclusion that lol is town.
What are the simlarities and differences between this two TMI’s?
Aelin listed Marl as a scumread until close to EoD, then pulled herself off his wagon and went for EVO saying she believed Marl might be town.
Aelin listed lol as a scumread and never rescinded that read.
i think gorta’s explanation of why he randed it made sense and it isn’t jestery
if he was jester he would stay quiet i think
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Other person is scum with you.
Other person is town PR and you are VT.
You are lynchproof / vengfull / jester.
You go for risky play.
You are just too depressed to carry on playing and decide to let yourself be lynched… cough Marl cough
Those are first things which come to my mind.
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similarities are that both were CWs to EVO, but in Marl’s case Aelin voted EVO and in lol’s case Aelin voted lol.
I forgot lynchproof was a thing tbh
I only got vengeful and jester.
Intensify was counterwagon to EVO, but in turn a counterwagon formed on lol and all the voters on Intensify moved off of him.
adding to this one again
D1: Marl was not the agenda push; EVO was
D2: EVO was not the agenda push; lol was
That can be a good point for later when it comes to EVO / Intensify analysis and people who swapped wagons.
But let’s focus on previous part.
Consdiering simlarities and differencies do you think Aelin TMI’d Marl and lol in the same way and with the same goal in mind?
i think i see a half-baked case i managed to not finish
Intensify’s votes could indicate that he’s w/w with EVO
but that would mean both of them are w/w with Aelin
which in turn means that Aelin was willing to bus Intensify to keep EVO alive, and yet she was willing to bus EVO the day before when his wagon was tying with Marl’s
Aelin/Intensify/EVO doesn’t really add up as a scumteam
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Wind are you ok.
If I was getting wagon’d day 2, I could’ve really easily self voted and did some crappy AtE
Aelin did a similar thing of “you’ve been really wolfy today” to both Marl D1 and lol D2.
However, she chose to vote Marl’s counterwagon on D1.
She chose to directly vote lol on D2 and even tried to lead the wagon on him, which is what she did to EVO on D1 and not to Marl.
So no, I don’t think she TMI’d lol the same as she did to Marl. She TMI’d lol the same as she did to EVO on D1.
Intensify, instead of trying to intrude someone’s analysis and derail it, it would be cool if you actually asked valid questions for it.
do you understand why that’s counterproductive to a jester’s wincon, though? if you self vote and AtE on this forum, people will get off your wagon.
There is one more difference in your analysis.
You said Aelin LED the wagon on EVO d1.
But you also said that none of Aelin’s arguments about lol are memorable.
So… how is it the same if ways they aproached it is different?
No that’s not…
You can just openwolf or freeze.
There’s a billion things I could’ve done to get myself lynched there, yet I didn’t.
If you’re looking at wagonomics, after the RT, I gave some cred to EVO and didn’t really want him dead anymore, hence the missing “self-pres” vote you all apparently expected for some reason
I didn’t think Aelin’s arguments against EVO were particularly memorable, either.
in both cases her arguments blended in with thread consensus and nitpicked at very minor things to SR them off but didn’t build up much after that.
by “leading” the wagon I meant that she was first to place her vote and keep it there.
In EVO’s case, she voted him first and didn’t switch.
In lol’s case, she voted him first, decided to swap to Intensify when nobody else was voting lol, but then swapped back to lol when we started moving votes back onto him.
so you value your read on someone else being town more than you value the knowledge that you yourself are town?