[Standard] NUF FM 2 - GAME OVER (MAFIA + NEUTRAL VICTORY)

admittedly I’ve never seen Eli as a wolf, but I’ve seen him get misyote a lot as town

I still think this was a fake claim. And yall are really ignoring context around the claim.

Read the claim and a bit above and below it.

Eli is probably just like “WTF are yall doing” which is why they have low WiM.

sadly, yes
and I know you’re going to say it makes it very easy to imitate as scum, but Gorta’s presence is different in his wolf games
and it’s very obvious that he enjoys randing wolf more than town, so the content he produces (regardless of amount) is different

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that’s not a reason to townread someone

I know, I was in the thread when Eli claimed it and I interacted with him to question the claim.

no i believe it i’ve played with people who make like 3 posts per dayphase

it’s not a reason to townread him but it’s also not a reason to wolfread him
I have other reasons for townreading him

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ok continue

i think agenda is nai and we agreed him being mislynched often is null

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It’s an ego thing, above avg intelligent people need to be good at something for them to have self worth, but it comes off as really emotionally immature.

W…what? Why are you letting your PoE influence so many of your thoughts without too much questioning?

Comparing reactions to past reactions is valid, don’t hedge.

Agenda is hard to be non-zero when you have zero content.

Tbh lol explains things in a really simplified way, but somehow hits the target with stuff like this

“Read denied” is honestly a really funny thing to say to Wind

I’m caught up. Wind I don’t think we’re on the same page anymore LMAO

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Although lol’s defense of PKR here, I need to see if that matches up with his previous reads because he really jumped in on this

I’m a bit taken aback by it and I’m trying to figure if I’m being pocketed. Either way, I’m kinda grateful to have some defence lmao

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i went from ‘‘pkr is confirmed mafia’’ to ‘‘biggest fan of pkr’’ in like 5 seconds if i remember correctly

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in most games where Eli posts enough before he’s killed, he fluffs and memes quite a bit
I see him sometimes give reads, usually without clarifying immediately
but pulls in some interesting pieces of information that show he’s actually analyzing the thread at certain points, even if he doesn’t backread absolutely everything or always explain what he’s thinking
as he pointed out in self-metaing himself, a lot of times the jokes he makes are… not actually jokes
so you can’t just assume the ninja sleepwalker claim is fake because of the timing; Eli could fake claim as a joke, but he could also decide to out his claim right there and then because he felt like it.

Eli’s been SRing PKR since the interaction between Eevee and PKR from what I can tell. He waited to vote until Aelin voted PKR first.
I made a comment there that waiting to be “reminded” to vote looked wolfy, but on the other hand I did see a logical progression (at least coming from Eli) on his PKR vote, so ignoring the fact that he voted immediately after Aelin, his vote makes sense.
Taking into account the fact that he voted immediately after Aelin, however, indicates at least to me that they are not W/W because two wolves voting one after another seems like something they wouldn’t want to do.

If we want to go into the “did PKR already know who Aelin was” territory again, Eli didn’t know that Aelin had switched pronouns until someone told him, by the way.

You’ll find all the reasons for what I’ve written above between the 1st and 53rd post in Eli’s ISO.

I’m just gonna stop here for now because I need to do some other stuff, but I think this gives you a good look at my reasons for TRing Eli… I don’t think he can be W/W with Aelin.

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I think you have too much defense, PKR. You are reacting really bad to being pressured, so I can see why they sus you rn

I mean, I kinda do that as any alignment… which is a really bad habit of mine.

But people like Wind should know this as a fact already

Can’t rely on a self meta, reactions are weighed heavily

It’s a self meta which others should be able to confirm to be an accurate one.

oh I’m very emotionally immature lol, I won’t deny that
but usually yeah, I don’t bring up that point. I just got kind of annoyed because I wolfed with PKR in the most recent game, and against him in the previous game, and he should know exactly how hard it is to convince people to vote me out.

I’m not letting my PoE influence my thoughts. I rebuilt my PoE around my thoughts.

true, but there isn’t zero content in Eli’s posts.
in Gorta’s, maybe

that’s fine. I’m trying to clarify my thoughts so that at the very least, everyone who disagrees with me at least sees why I think the way I do.

can confirm, that’s why I said you do it as any alignment lol
I’m literally not taking that into account as much as other factors because I don’t think it holds much weight even with context.

Also I forgot to say but I’m out atm.
So if I’m quiet it’s because I’m on a walk.

It’s way too fucking hot atm and I burn so easily.
I’ve been walking for an hour and a quarter

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