[Standard] NUF FM 2 - GAME OVER (MAFIA + NEUTRAL VICTORY)

[EVO]

how confident are we that lol’s death was intentional?

[EVO]

I’m not familiar with forum mafia setups, but I know from what I have played in, that the wrong person can end up giving up the ghost

[Intensify]

Wat

[WindwardAway]

you mean if lol wasn’t the intended target?

[EVO]

Yeah. We can’t find any reasoning for lol’s death.

[WindwardAway]

if you’re referring to the nexus ability, it doesn’t affect killing actions so Intensify would just… die

[WindwardAway]

I gave my take on it already, and I guess PKR did too. what does everyone else think?

[Intensify]

Yeah if they attacked me I would just die.

Sadly my ability does not redirect kills

[EVO]

Welp now I look dumb

[Intensify]

My ability would be busted if I could redirect kills

[EVO]

Well not just your ability

[EVO]

Others seem really confident in the mech setup though so I don’t want to throw new ideas

[Intensify]

I mean…

We should have all the PR claims by now…

I doubt there’s another PR unless there’s deliberately a scum PR that really gets big screwed by my ability?

[WindwardAway]

some of lol's posts

@lol

pkr is definetly a townie imo he’s been pure and being pure

his reads are wrong but it’s because he’s salty

@PokemonKidRyan why do you townread tigrarial

@lol

have you seen ninja sleepwalkers before?

@lol

i’ve seen ninjas before but i’ve never seen that specific combo

it seems a little convenient for me to claim that and i still don’t like interactions

@lol

3. PokemonKidRyan

4. Intensify

5. EVO

6. WindwardAway

7. an_gorta_pratai

8. eevee

9. Tilgarial

10. EliThePsycho

kinda where i’m at
top is townies mid is towny people bottom is poe

@lol

i went from ‘‘pkr is confirmed mafia’’ to ‘‘biggest fan of pkr’’ in like 5 seconds if i remember correctly

@lol

Voting interaction

@Aelin

/vote PKR

EVO hasn’t posted yet :^)

@EliThePsycho

/vote PKR @Zone_Q11

just realized i should do this

@Aelin

Why are you voting him?

@EliThePsycho

have you not read thread

@Aelin

I have, and I’ve given my thoughts on PKR/Eevee already

Why’d you wait until I voted him to vote?

@EliThePsycho

just forgot

thanks for reminding me

@Aelin

H m m . . .

/vote Eli

@EliThePsycho

i’m

not even joking

@Aelin

then it’s followed by a bunch of memery and aelin votes intensify for no reason, pretty much

@Aelin

/vote Intensify

bonk

and very small mentions after that, usually someone just above eli in scumminess, like me or evo.

this is a decent post regarding eli, but it’s in a massive wall

@Aelin

eli stated they were going to dissect winds wallpost a bit and then posted like

“duh, hedge, hedge” and that they’d do more tomorrow which is making me go
reading intensify’s wallpost is hurting my head but ill try and remember to go back to it later

and that’s about it, regarding eli, other than the vote analysis ,ofcourse that’s assuming i didn’t miss anything

where did it all go? i think it was

theatre

then in response to my asking how much Aelin pushed Eli on D2:

@lol

they had the option to vote eli d2 since he wasn’t townread yet but they voted me and intensify, and im pretty sure i was voting or atleast suggesting eli so that alone is saying that there wasn’t that much sus coming from aelin

@lol

by townread i mean they havent stated ‘‘oh i think eli is townie’’ from what i saw, he was in limbo of ‘‘kinda sus’’

@lol

@lol

fuckm

/vote elithepsycho

i said id sheep cheese but i dont feel confident in evo being mafia at all, the play doesnt make sense to me

@lol

i think eli is a great vote but i have no case just gut

id need to reread to get ammo again so im down to be hanged so i can chill

it’s fair to ignore it but didn’t even ask why

@lol

if we don’t want to go for eli would like to see reads on tilgarial, i noted pkr as not very confident town read but if there is a lot of townreads towards them, there must be a reason why

@lol

lads just read my thing and vote eli this is free, no need to think about it. either that or we lynch eevee

my gut says either 3 mafia or 2 mafia and neutral, and eevee giving heavy neutral vibes

@lol

if there is a deepwolf, its always intensify or evo

@lol

dont waste your time on pkr or windward until lylo or mylo

@lol

and i wouldn’t say low motivation is AI at all, today there’s like 2 people doing anything

@lol

idk i think their interaction is the suspicious part, but if you want to lynch pkr go ahead

@lol

pkr is town

I went through lol’s ISO to get a feel for where he was standing
he wasn’t hard protecting PKR or me anymore by the end of the day; he just said not to reeval until MyLo/LyLo so never mind that, I guess.
However, he was pretty confident in scum!Eli by the looks of it, so maybe we should be looking again there. In addition to that, he was one of the few people who did not have Tilgarial as a townread (and I’m the other one).

Has there been any interaction at all between Tilga and Eli? I gotta go for a bit but I’ll come back later with more thoughts on this.

[Intensify]

I don’t think there was much interesting interaction with Eli and Tilga

[WindwardAway]

@EVO

Others seem really confident in the mech setup though so I don’t want to throw new ideas

I’m starting to think Eli’s claim is correct but that he’s a mafia ninja sleepwalker
or just a mafia ninja
when I went through eevee’s ISO again, I noticed that eevee was asking me for reasons how the mafia would be able to come up with ninja sleepwalker as a fake claim, and the one reason I overlooked that eevee pointed out was if mafia had a ninja (regardless of the sleepwalker part).

[WindwardAway]

Mafia ninja also adds up with the watcher, and the sleepwalking part then wouldn’t do any harm to the scumteam, so it would still be balanced.

[EVO]

I think you are taking Eevee’s “expertise” too seriously personally

[Intensify]

Why would there be a sleepwalker part to Eli’s role then if he’s ninja?

[EVO]

He gave no final reads so you won’t even know if he was right at the end of the game.