[Standard] NUF FM 2 - GAME OVER (MAFIA + NEUTRAL VICTORY)

Fuck it, Chloe’s not in here so I need to do a thing I know Chloe (or Arete, I think both do but I remember Chloe more for some reason) asks quite a bit.

  1. Most recent game and what did you learn from it.
  2. Examples of your town and scum games and if you would like to repeat “what you learned” from them that would be good too.
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Hey.

Only I am allowed to copy the Arete thing >:(

Ahem

Fuck it, Chloe’s not in here so I need to do a thing I know Chloe (or Arete, I think both do but I remember Chloe more for some reason) asks quite a bit.

  1. Most recent game and what did you learn from it.
  2. Examples of your town and scum games and if you would like to repeat “what you learned” from them that would be good too.

joy_game or the small number of players game

…don’t try to lead town I guess?

Me, as a confirmed pokemon, and also confirmed god (But not pokemon god, just a… procrastination god) hearby give you this insight:

Use a freaking masterball.

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Statistically, yes?

Get quicker instead of just loafing about and doing nothing :slight_smile:

I’ve learned that my only source of reliable reads is on people reading me

Chop Chop Method

By following this Method, you get a way more accurate readslist and get scum almost all the time the longer you stay alive.

Playstyle PoV

Each player has a different (or similar to another) Playstyle.
The first thing to do is to know someone’s Playstyle before making a read on them as they can be naturally scummy or naturally Townie.
Now while a Playstyle is NAI (although to some that not so bright, can cause a read or two) you need to look at their Point of View. To determine how it can come from Town rather if it comes from Scum.

Look to see where their POV comes from.
Essentially put everyone as Town unless reason otherwise.

META

First off, if they have previous games you may want to look at them or if you already played with them enough then you may get the feel of how they play.

Contradiction

Now sometimes, people will stay stuff and then say something completely different or opposite. This is called a Contradiction.
Now while this isn’t entirely AI, in certain circumstances it can be if there is absolutely zero or close to zero reason they would do this from a Town PoV.

Agenda

Some scum have a certain agenda they want to push to get consistent ML’s or manipulation in others reads.
Now sometimes Town can also have Agenda’s as well.
So you got to figure out exactly how or why they would do it from a Town PoV.

Reaction

Sometimes Reaction is just straight out NAI.
However, in some cases a Reaction can be scum indicative and some can even be called a “Slip”.

So to push for some Reactions a good way to do it is to Pressure other players to see how they respond towards the Pressure.
Another, is try and question other people’s actions to see how they react towards the questioning and how they handle it.
Interacting is also a good way for Reactions as well but it’s usually not as effective as Pressuring or Questioning.

Votes, Reads and Kills Analysis

Votes

Remember it’s very important to where you place your vote. For scum they usually don’t leave their vote on a scum unless they intend to Bus.
Scum may vote each other throughout the day but them leaving it on each other at day end is an unlikely scenario.
When looking at someone you want to keep track where they placed their vote at the end of the day and keep track as to how many times they voted. (Who they voted each time is irrelevant, only the final voted player matters)

Reads

So when it comes to this, this has nothing to do with your reads but rather others reads.

First you want to take the number of amount of alive players and divide it by 4.
Then you want to take that number and try and get everyone to give their Top (that number) TR’s and their Top (that number SR’s) as it can come in handy later.

Kills

Most of the time people are killed for a certain reason rather if be accurate reads, obvious town or allowing scum to push agenda.
Now I suppose scum could randomly do the kill but it’s fairly unlikely for scum to do so.
There are also some, who just don’t make a certain kill as it would make no sense from their Scum PoV to do so.
Make sure to keep Track of each scum kill as well.

I also gotta Remember to see the dead townies reads killed or ML’ed.

Interaction Partners Removal

So sometimes there are just interactions players have that can just never be scum theatre. So keep track of those interactions as if 1 flips scum, you can clear the other.

Evaluation Swap

In the case of if you feel that your current readslist or PoE is incorrect, try and evaluate and swap at least 1 Read/Clear with another, potentially from the opposite side of the Readslist.

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Black, not black 2
used my masterball on the reshiram

Is… is self voting some sort of ritual around these parts?

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yes

/Vote Marluxion

This is all I need to see to justify my vote

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That makes sense, thank you

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Most recent game was Catgirl Jester Nightless, not to be confused with Catgirl Jester Nightless.

I learned that… well actually not sure. I think what I learned was I should’ve been more pressuring on my PoE, as I had literally had a 100% correct PoE during that game and I let myself get too mislonched too easily at the end cause one townie was sheeping someone and IC had a gut read on me or some crap.

I mean, it really doesn’t make sense.
But I appreciate you trying to make sense of us forumers and our quirks.

Self voting and AtE’ing is not uncommon. Nor is self hammering. Or stuff like that.

-10 billion points

:thi

thanks cloned cheese
very cool

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