[Standard] NUF FM 2 - GAME OVER (MAFIA + NEUTRAL VICTORY)

Cloned is acting very similarly imo to how I’ve seen him play as town in the Pokémon 9er. I’m not solely relying on meta but I do follow his thought processes pretty clearly here and I don’t think he’s a wolf because I can see his reasons and motivation.

On that note I was also able to find you as town very fast in the Vig10er. The thing is that you aren’t obvtowning in this game.

At this point if i have to die to prove a point, i don’t even care that much. This game all around hasn’t really been fun to play. I was enjoying it for a bit and then i’ve been too focused on trying to defend myself from impossible accusations to even find time to focus on scumhunting.

And then the evo/eevee shit happened and the entire tone of the thread has been eh

it’d probably be more fun hanging out in spec chat yelling at villagers than being here
and that’s not normal because i usually have a lot of fun playing fm, which is why i join like every game on the site. this game just isn’t doing it for me now

this isn’t a thing
it never has been

people can’t tell me my tunnely playstyle is bad and obnoxious and then also criticize me and scumread me for trying to improve and avoid it

like
it’s a lose/lose scenario for me
what am i supposed to do

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It’s not that I expect you to explicitly obvtown yourself. It’s that I have certain towntells on you and I’m not seeing them here. And no, it doesn’t have to do with the tunnelling part; it’s other things.
But yeah I have to agree that the tone of the thread has been meh, and I think it started earlier than the most recent shit. I think it’s also part of the reason I don’t feel like I have strong reads on most people and admittedly why I haven’t cared enough about trying to read other slots.

that’s fine
i dont blame you for believing in your read
but i’m not going to let you blame me when you’re wrong

when i die if i see the thread filled with “wow marl really played like shit huh, shame nothing we could do” i’m probably going to have an aneurysm

I think Evo / Eevee / PKR / LoL contains at least 1 mafia, possibly two.

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That’s fine
And ftr I don’t think you’re playing like shit, I’m trying to understand where your reasons are coming from but they just feel more forced than usual.

I think cloned and aelin are both way >rand to be w

That I can agree on

I don’t think i’ve seen a single new thought from Intensify. All of his takes and reads seem to be echoes of things other people have said or are widely agreed upon.

I still think it’s >rand w as well.

Recently wolfing against him makes my bias skewed since i just played with wolfvision.

Didn’t you start by townleaning Cloned early on? What made you change your read on him?

Mostly how he approached my slot felt really opprotunistic. And it was a super early townlean on one post.

Which he then scumread me for (when i was extremely thread consensus scum at the time, so it’s not like he was providing a new take.)

Meanwhile you also said twice that you townread him without really giving a reason why and he gave you no flak at all.

It’s an inconsistency that pushes an agenda and i think it’s a wolftell.

All right

But have you ever been thread consensus scum?
Only Intensify said I gave some logic in scumreading you. I think Cloned, Aelin and min have all agreed on at least some points I brought up, but you’ve said that all of them are really wolfy. Eli said one of your posts was towny, and lol sheeped me with no explanation. The current number of votes on you is the most you’ve had (except maybe after joke posting the ChopChop method, but I don’t think most people in the thread have commented their reads on you whatsoever, and as I said earlier I find that odd. They aren’t all wolves, but then why don’t they have reads on you? The most I’ve seen is “Wind is strangely confident early in the game” and I believe that was from lol.

Point being, I don’t think you’ve been consensus scumread. There are just people who aren’t making their reads known and I’m pretty sure there’s at least one, if not two wolves who fall into that category.

I think over half the players have said that i’m scummy. It’s possible i’ve just been noticing it more than you due to it irritating me. Like Eli hasn’t, eevee hasn’t, evo hasn’t, pkr hasn’t and i think that’s it.

And the group of people who haven’t given reads overlaps with this btw

Oh, that’s possible