[Standard] WoW:BfA v1.1 - Alliance Victory (2/16)

Leafia has given us more associations to look at

I looked over this game, and specifically over Leafia’s ISO, and she did a lot of the same thins that she has been doing here. Always trying to insist that she is town, and that it is silly to mafia read her.

I think SirDerpsAlot’s flip says quite a bit, in the case that he is group mafia. If it is a healer class, then I am inclined to think he healed chloe, which is a poor look for her. If it is not a healer class, then it is much more likely that he saw Napoleon’s claim to heal chloe, and piggy-backed it, hoping to get town credit. It also is a better look for chloe, because if she was group mafia, and knew she had no healer classes to support her, it makes little sense for her to Bus seth, and in general have such nonchalantness about herself dying.

If derps is Genn, he would not falsely flip today, and we would know he was Genn. Moleland would not be locked mafia, but I would probably be suspicious.

If Derps flips as a healing group alliance, I think that chloe is probably alliance as well, and if they both are alliance, I think it is a very poor look for leafia as chloe’s claim of occupation is an attempt to clear Leafia from being superpower.

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I do think we learn more from SirDerpsAlot’s flip, provided he is mafia, which I think he is!

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I understand the last part is getting into pre-flipping territory, but I think his flip is an important one to see, not just for alignment, but for race and class as well.

This is being re-enacted, I won’t be able to stay up until 5am. I tried. Sorry.

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I skimmed over your ISO. Could you make a case for why these associations prove the gorta/Derps/Leafia team you’re proposing?

Why do you think Derps flipping Alliance is a bad look on Chloe?

You were part of the reasin I shifted to Leafia too :kappa:

Leafia at the start of the day has hard defended Gorta and Derps in weird ways. I’d like to see if that was TMI or black knighting ir something else.

Did you read my post? It was only if Derps flipped as a healing alliance. The reasoning is that Chloe was going to die to bleeding, and he claimed to heal the bleed. There’s very little motivation for him to heal a horde member, especially if 10_posts_daily is town, as it would cause 2 horde players to die and put alliance in a way better position.

…I announced I healed Chloe before Derps said he did.

Let’s suppose Leafia flips scum. How would you analyze it as you seem unsure about whether it would be TMI/Black Knighting? I get the argument that could be made for more interactions but it’s important to be able to interpret them correctly.

If they flip GS it suggests that Derps or Gorta is lost wolf.

If leaf flips LW… Then one of them might be town.

I probably will not be around for End of Day. I’m a treestump anyways, so it’s not like i’ll have a crucial vote to cast.

Anyway, I’m going to join Kyo now.

I’ve said my preference, but derps is fine too. Just whatever you do, make sure a candidate has a majority - don’t let rng decide.

Wrong. We learn far more from a Derps flip than we do from a Leafia flip and Derps has a higher chance of flipping w than I do too.

You should have a 0% chance of flipping wolf, right?

Even town will claim they’re town and say that it’s silly to think them mafia and you did that exact thing EoD2. The rest I agree with though. We flip Derps today and move on from there.

Correct, although to an outsider’s eyes, the chance isn’t that low. To someone that isn’t me, it could be as high as 50/50. Which I’d say is the same as Frankie right now to my eyes. Derps however I’d say has a 65% chance of being scum.

I don’t think a town would phrase an answer like this.

I’m seriously going but I want you to pay attention to the bolded part

A town just did so. And why wouldn’t they?

I read back through the past few posts. I shouldn’t jump the gun and assume this was a scumslip, because tbh I’ve done stupid shit like this too (Like in FoL25 when I said bus instead of wagon, as townie), and you read as kinda genuine - at least the not knowing that Orc can bleed portion.
Regardless
You aren’t the jettison today

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I don’t even know what to say anymore
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I’m exhausted over the amount of times we have pointed out the flip-flops from this slot
I’m starting to think Leafia is LW over groupscum here, and something happened to my occ, because shes so alone - and shes flip-flopping on everyone.
Could be indicative of her not knowing who her teammates are.

Also, she made that stupid bet with the hot sauce, and specified exactly “groupscum” rather than “scum.” I know that’s a stupid way to read someone, but it still strikes me as odd that she used such specific wording.

NKA shows that Frankie could have died because he scumread Leafia, and I wouldn’t put it past her to completely miss his Undead claim - thus not knowing he comes back as a treestump.
I don’t actually think groupscum Leafia would have Vul killed last night - as he was convinced shes town.

We need groupscum out atm, and I kinda think this is a cornered LW.
(Disregarding my mech info is hard, but I’m trying to get better at not relying too heavily on mech over reads)

I’m not scum
ayaya

But i do understand your perspective.