I wouldn’t mind
prince not being present in cult game tbh
Hmmmmm… Ok I got it! First of all the prince should stay guarenteed BUT! He can lose Occupy and Conversation Immunity. I would also like to suggest that he be given the special type and have his own cult class.
Now obviously this would dramatically lower BD winrate so to compensate the BD should regain the priest in her most powerful form!
The unconvertible guarenteed one where the revived person is also unconvertible.
Unlike the Prince they cannot die N1 or anything so that’s not an issue but also unlike the prince you can counter claim a priest more effectively. Especially if you have a way to let unseen talk to the dead too.
In addition to that other BD would need some (not too big) buffs too.
I was actually thinking about something like that as a way to buff the cult. Each non unique class would be converted into the same cult class, but unique classes would have their own cult class.
No. It should only be brought back if their revive is the same as physician’s current revive. The old priest was way too OP and was an almost guaranteed win for the BD in every game it was in.
I’d prefer reworks instead of buffs(like making sheriff and paladin into actual investigative classes and not just unseen/cult hardcounters.)
I’ve wanted to see some reworks too. I don’t personally consider the sheriff/paladin to be hardcounters. After all those are countering factions not classes. That being said I have been pushing a rework that keeps the sheriff as the linear Investigator but for all factions and makes the paladin something else entirely.
As for the priest thing I would like to remind you that this is compensating for one of the biggest BD nerfs ever. The loss of the Prince being unconvertible is more than the gain of the priest.
If you don’t like that then you should prepose what to do instead or at least argue that the core idea of nerfing the prince like that is a bad idea.
I’m not sure if this is the best solution, but this is what I want to happen as well. Only because Prince dying on night 1 seems to be happening at LEAST every other game for me. It’s become a meme at this point. People predict it happening and it actually does happen more often than not, despite the odds.
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Prince is no more likely to die than any other BD class - I guess confirmation bias plays into it/or people who are Prince act in a way that stands out?
are you insane?
plugs sfol 12
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Prince really shouldn’t be convertible. You can’t claim to the king because there’s 66% chance he’s not BD. You can’t claim to Psy because he might get converted. Prince is the one class that can be trusted to hold the claims for the classes and pass judgment.
If the king was always BD, we wouldn’t need that and sure you could convert the prince. But that’s not the game we have. Prince is the real leader of the BD, he needs to stay BD.
I could agree to prince losing his immunity to occupy. That way his exe could be prevented by cult and unseen with occupy abilities. But put that nerf with the passive that if he dies until n3, someone with royal blood take his place. Would be awesome if unseen managed to convert a drunk before that and he’d get a shot at being the Prince lmao. He could execute the BD claims XD.
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Kind of sad. Princes and kings can be evil. Why not allow that in game…
Imagine the 59 different 'I didn’t want to risk claiming to an evil Prince, so they executed me!" thread whinges we’d get.
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What I suggested has evil prince. Just not the starting one.
I think it would be good to bring back priest and have their revived target immune to conversion, but the priest themself be convertable
Alcoholic shouldn’t count though, it should be unconverted Drunk priority then to unconverted Princesses to make it fair and consistent.
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Yes, but they can only affect those factions. That’s why I consider them to be hardcounters.
That’s the other main problem with sheriff though. BD investigative classes shouldn’t be linear.
That’s part of the reason why prince should be convertable though. A class that you can 100% trust is a bit overpowered.
I’d rather see that than nothing. Prince also should only have 1 execution, it does too much for a single class.
How exactly would that work? If it’s random, then no. RNG is bad for the game. Maybe instead, there could a new class which would become the prince if the prince dies. They would overhear the prince’s chat and see who the prince jails each night. They also would have an ability that gives the prince 1 use of execute back. Maybe they could even talk with the prince at night.
I was thinking about it as an addition to the Royal Blood passive. You are first in the line to become king AND if Prince dies before d4, you become him. That second part would follow a priority order. Princess first, then Drunk. Or the other way around.
Regarding the new class, I don’t think a new class based solely on the prince would be a good idea or even an enjoyable one.
I gave the idea of the possibility of the second prince being unseen. If a Drunk or a Princess got converted before the prince died, they would become an evil prince. So the first prince would still be 100% trustworthy, the second prince not so much.
I like Prince’s 3 execution with the chance of losing all of them. That’s BD only lethal weapon against evil outside of official executions and Knight’s (and DK’s) cold steel. But yeah, losing occ immunity would be great imo.
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