Support Reworks

[orangeandblack5]

gib phys exhume?

Also MB on CW seems super confirmable which is not good

[orangeandblack5]

Much like with Priest, Squire’s one-night immunity is really meh at best

[orangeandblack5]

I must be missing the point of Baron. I’m not seeing the appeal.

[Livicus]

The point of Baron was that he would be a Support class who would keep his abilities when he became King, but @NuclearBurrito and @NightX were fiercely opposed to letting him keep his abilities when becoming King.

[Livicus]

@NuclearBurrito You liked the post where I called you out for being fiercely opposed to Baron and Duke’s niche? XD

You’re strange, man.

[Livicus]

This was my original Baron and Duke

The Baron

Blue Dragon Support

(Converts to Duke)

Passives

Royal Blood:
(Everyone should know what this is)

Entitlement:
If you become the next King, you will keep your abilities alongside the abilities of succeeding Kings. (Not Starting King)

Abilities

Royal Loan: (N) (4)
Choose another player. Any limited night ability they use tonight will not lose a charge when used.

Not included for both Baron and Duke:
Prince’s Execute if Prince killed Blue Dragon
Reanimate (In whatever form)

Kinship: (D) (2)
Choose any player and give them the Royal Blood passive if they do not have it. If that class already has two passives, they may not inherit Royal Blood.

The Duke

Unseen Support

Passives

Royal Blood:
(Everyone should know what this is)

Entitlement:
If you become the next King, you will keep your abilities when you become King alongside a succeeding King’s abilities.

Abilities

Kinship: (D) (1)
Choose any player and give them the Royal Blood passive if they do not have it. If that class already has two passives, they may not inherit Royal Blood.

Coup: (N) (1)
Make Assassin’s attack tonight bypass heal and night immunity if it targets the King.
(Not part of Entitlement passive when you become the King)

Royal Loan: (N) (3)
Choose another player. Any limited night ability they use tonight will not lose a charge when used.

It’s the “Royal” Support class, being the only Royal who wouldn’t have to give up his abilities to become King, but the other abilities are still different from a Starting King’s abilities.

[orangeandblack5]

That’s a unique take

Certainly becomes pointless without entitlement though

[Livicus]

I thought Baron would be amazing like this, but dunno why the others opposed it, but hey, it’s a Democracy

[NightX]

Hey, what do you think about this CW rework:

Court Wizard

Blue Dragon Support

Passive: Fragile Magic: If you and another Court Wizard use an ability on the same person, you will both fail.

Night Ability: Tornado: Redirect everyone who targets your first target to your second. Unlimited uses, bypasses immunity.

Sage has tornado replaced, duh

Possible secondary power:

Magic Barrier: Prevent all visits to your target. 2 uses.

[CheesyKnives]

prevent

rip fakeclaim

[NightX]

Taking suggestions. That was just me brainstorming.

I’m mainly focused on Tornado here.

[Hippolytus]

What’s wrong with current tornado?

[NightX]

The problem is that CW is boring. And Tornado can’t be the primary power, for reasons I only partly understand.

If Tornado now can’t be the main power, this is my alternative.

[orangeandblack5]

Nothing, it’s just considered boring.

How do we feel about a day ability that empowers their night abilities, making Tornado bypass immunity or giving you two MBs? Would be a bit more interactive I guess

[NuclearBurrito]

Limited day empowers are a great way to spice up a class. I like it.

[orangeandblack5]

ok because that’s in my WIP megathread atm

[RHCube]

Tornado should just bypass immunity normally, there’s no good reason why it shouldn’t. Having 2 magic barriers would be fine though