The Best Solution to The Whisper Meta

This is the existing one FYI

Oh, right, I forgot that was added. Well, something in addition to that, if that’s not enough to discourage blind king-lynching.

I would also point out, if good king is executed his logbook isn’t displayed. is a pretty negligable penalty. If people don’t trust the king enough that they killed him early… they probably also didn’t whisper him anything to log.

The royal blood killer I’d be in favor of though. That single handedly kills the primary motive for executing the undetermined king (as royal blood eliminates 80-90% of evils and neutrals from the race)

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So basically what orange has been suggesting forever?

It is probably the “safest” solution, although I admit I am fond of the “you done fucked up; every BD who didn’t vote inno on him commits suicide the next night” approach.

Yes, it’s drastic, but I feel that lynching the king should be an extremely big deal, and making it so the entire game hangs in the balance is interesting.

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I’d rather have a suicide penalty then the current nullifying of the day.

Not an entire BD thing, though.

Perhaps the first 2 or 3 BD voters die of guilt.

Clearly if the king is lynched everyone looses should be the natural result :wink:

Either way, I would also add an “anarchy” penalty (either Nobility doesn’t count after that, or no king at all) for when a Butler poisons a BD king, because otherwise people would have the Butler kill the king to get around the penalty and prove the Butler. The Butler’s suicide isn’t enough because it takes two full nights to happen and is totally a worthwhile trade-off to make a confirmed BD king.

Actually you need to remember that part of the reason why Butler poison isn’t particularly good for this is that an Alch or misguided phys could heal it.

Also it would give an Evil or Neut King a twitchy trigger finger with thier Order Exe.

That’s a total of 2 deaths as a result of butler poison regardless of Kings faction. 1 of which is BD at minimum. That isn’t worth it and is the reason why Butler can even have an ability like that.

I’m fairly sure that no RB favors BD even more. Random Suicides is too punishing for when a BD king is Good but Dumb.

Anarchy is… probably about fair, but I don’t know that people would care?

I think it might be good to make Butler poison unhealable and silent. It could be a nice Butler buff.