The Two Roles who need an Unseen Reworks

Class/Lore/Fanfic
#1
Poacher

The Poacher

Passives

Isolation - Immune to target change and occupation

Night Abilities:

Savage Hound - Cause a player to bleed(1 use)

Spike Traps - same as normal

Why Changed:
Without an ability to wolf another player, poacher can be easily figure out, and without target immunity it can make it easy for a drunk to say they are not Hunter, spike trap can now be used to get a confirmed kill ( that is why uses has gone down to stop unseen from keep getting confirmed kills).

The Illusionist

The Illusionist

Passives

Day Abilities:
Telepathy - same as normal.(2 uses)
Private Matter - same(2 uses)
Night Abilities:

Mind Warp - Make a player receive incorrect feedback about their abilities.

Why changed:
Mental Blur is too situational, and tells BD their is a confirmed converted Mystic, making the ability a risk with no good pay off. Psychic is good, because it let’s Unseen communicate with each other, and allows Unseen to help a member when jailed.

  • This is Great! Perfectly Works needs no fixes.
  • This could improve the game, but needs a few tweaks before being perfect.
  • This would only worsen the game, needs a lot of fixes.

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#2

First of all. No dead interaction. Second of all. That makes Poacher a buffed Sage.

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#3

Also the Current Spike Trap is one of the most interesting Ability’s in the game.

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#4

AND these converts are already at the proper power level

#5

I will agree with the trap, but I believe Hunter really needs away to cause another player to bleed. Without it will cause suspicion, and the Illusionist’s Mental Blur needs buffing

#6

Also frame is redundent with the Aristocrat

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#7

We could straight up remove mental blur with no replacement and the illusionist would work just fine.

And I’ve never had a lack of wolf become a problem

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#8

Mostly because wolf is 2 use and risky

#9

True, forgot Aristocrat had frame, just thought it was apostle, thanks

#10

But when a prince asks you to wolf someone, your basically dead.

#11

Actualy Apostle doesn’t have frame

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#12

Ok maybe let’s start from beginning:
Illusionist: Even if Mental Blur need to replaced giving her ability worst version of Aristocrat’s Abillity which isn’t good replacement.
Poacher: He’s is fine at the way he is. Period.

Talking about specific buffs to particular roles, we should focus on weaker converts like Alcoholic or Duchess.

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#13

When the prince asks you to wolf someone then he is dead. Or the person he told you to wolf is dead. Or they are unseen and you “wolf” them.

Or you suicide accuse and get replaced like a good little Unseen.

#14

but what if you need numbers? And unseen should be able to get themselves out of situations, every other converted role can do it, why not poacher?

#15

Because it’s an independent Unseen kill.

#16

And if you need numbers then you would be at the point where executing the Prince in the day is an option.

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#17

Or killing him that night while snare trapping the Knight

#18

but your jailed, so how does that work?

#19

Or some other game winning combination of actions

#20

If you are jailed then you have a good explanation for why you didn’t wolf anyone