y tho
The faction can at max have two people. Itās not strong at all, itās disgustingly weak especially without KP
Not even then it wouldnāt be that bad with only two members. Itās just unbalanced
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So this is a faction right, similiar to Unseen and Cult. If BD is smart enough, they can lynch and Prince exe both in one night to get rid of the whole faction, now I hear you saying, well that can happen with any faction they only start with two, but, the big but is that they convert night 1. Soā¦ if BD are smart, this faction can be wiped Day 2/N2 since prince exe is at night, while unlike the Cult and Unseen they have the convert to hold the house down. Plus the lack of a kpn, means your best bet is to find killers, but if this were to be introduced killers would be smart enough to only claim to prince/mystic/king. Also the fact you can convert Neutrals is against the point of a neutral, they were made to be not converted, most of their abilities prove almost no significant help to a Vampire lord. Wow a Fool can get himself detected and trollbox, a SS can make it so only attacks go through, oh wait we dont have a killer since I recuited the SS. The only ones that would be worth it are NKs, but just like prince and King they are uuncovertable by nature, and making them convertable is weird and against everything present in the game atm. Also just a major gripe in general is he lack of a Vampire version of Sheriff/Paladin for me. The fact can either spawn makes misinformation spread on what type of game it is.
If I were you and wanted to flesh this out, I would make the Vampire Lord stronger, decide if I wanted this to be smaller faction like the cult where the class type matters and not the specific role, or Unseen like where everyone has a convert. I would also recomend a second in command if its more like Unseen, like Assassin, to make the other person worth while if you converted a a less than average class. I would raise the cap and put the convert on cooldown to match the system of the other factions. Lastly I would make the unconvertables stay unconverted, and add an new Invest that has some new abilities to help find them. A vampire Hunter would be a cool name for it
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prince canāt exe n2
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then lack claim indicates theyāre killer
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merc used to be convertable
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trollbox is powerful, i agree sellsword is weak convert
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weirdness doesnāt seem a good argument to me
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read the wiki so u dont get confused
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i donāt like the suggestions to make it more similar to unseen/cult
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the whole point was a faction thatās totally different
More used to FOL at this point but still a prince could stop the converts even with just a jail
Doesnt mean it should be now. Neuts are neuts not scum or town
I feel like things like āPrince, but itās convertableā would mess up ā¦ kind of a lot of the balance of the game.
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Iām fine with the 2 max vampires, but No cooldown? The Kentucky Fried Fuck is this.
Even if everything else was fine about this, no cooldown means they can spread indefinitely.
No. No no no no NO! KING SHOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO BE CONVERTED! (Possessor is borderline converting, but itās also a bad play)
Turns a vampire into a vampire
But also, why would this need to be a thing? Neutrals donāt need to be converted, and a Neutral Killer sided with any faction would be OP.
For one, Evil Prince.
So are Neutral Killers. And Scorned. And Fool. And any neutral that can be considered ābadā to the BD.
Prince needs nerfing in the first place lel bring in the Duke.
King converts are a NO.
Like, in most cases this faction is weak. Everyone is focusing on but what if the prince is converted ect. Thatās a 1/15 chance N1. Most of the time it wonāt hit the prince. As well, if they convert the king and then someone kills the vampire lord then there cannot be any more vampire lords.
Everyone also is forgetting phyisican and knights protect against this class, so itās not over if the prince is outted.