[THREAD 2] Homestuck FM - The Meteor (Year 1) [5/10]

Event 3

Dream Bubbles

Dialoglog

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TEREZI: OV3R! >:]

Dream bubbles are found in the Furthest Ring, glubbed into being by Horroterrors. They are a way for dead selves of players, possibly from offshoot timelines, to continue dreaming and existing as part of the temporal continum. As long as its inhabitants know the workings of the bubbles, they can manipulate the bubble to shift to any memories the players may have.

Who knows what these will hold…

You are approaching a Dream Bubble filled with dead friends, dancestors, and other unknown beings.

Mini-events will be held at times listed below:
Kankri Vantas: 2020-07-10T07:00:00Z
Aranea Serket: 2020-07-10T18:00:00Z
Meenah Piexes: 2020-07-10T22:00:00Z

Each player will accumulate points from these events, and the player with the most points will receive a prize relevant to the game.

Have fun!

…this doesn’t sound good to me.

I got busy and couldn’t make any reads, but I will get those tomorrow and have them by d3.

/vote Kyo @clonedcheese I did read Ash’s case and it kind of does make sense. If Kyo is gscum they would likely know that Leafia wasn’t scum and just not push that unless needed.

4X4

I don’t know where the greencheck comes from, but I am highly conflicted on this slot. Like on one hand the go from defending leafia -> pushing leafia -> pushing Zone, while also goin after Leafia. This kind of tells me that 4 has some kind of TMI and is in the business for pushing any kind of lynch that isn’t their scumbud, but that’s preflipping. Slight SL (also apparently bleeding, so semi self resolving)

Ash

This slot has the potential to be gscum, but everything else is telling me no. Like they semi go after light right away, but that could be some tin foil. The things I do like about that slot is the progression, the content, and their willingness to solve. slight TL

Kyo

I don’t have as much of a confident read here. Some things about their defense of Leafia when she is auto scum on this site gives me red flags and they likely aren’t w/w with Zone. Ash also makes a decent case on the slot, but the thing that in conflicting with me is that from my experience s!Kyo usually let’s the town destroy itself while hanging out on the sidelines and usually only making crazy pushes if it helps the team. I don’t know null/light SL

Cents

I really don’t know about this slot, but that shouldn’t matter too much because they are bleeding.I get so many mixed messages from this slot, like I really don’t think both Light and Kyo are scum here. It’s either one or the other, as I don’t see many w/w interactions between them.They should be bleeding out, so forgive me if I don’t put much more thought into that right now (it’s way later than it should be) I don’t what to think about their tunnel of Leafia, but I will be looking deeper into this slot and Zone a bit later.

Zone

In my opinion this slot is scummy as hell. I did not like them pushing for a Leafia execution without re-eval and how they have tried to take control of the thread, but that play makes sense from a scum sided neutral that wants to get executed.

Comes from me

…sigh. I keep saying that this is not the case though. In the first place, if I am a scum sided neutral that wants to get lynched, wouldn’t that match with what Kyo hypothesized about me?

Also, there are 18 players total in this game, and App claims that he is a neutral who can confirm an NK’s existence. If I were to be “a third neutral” …well, I wouldn’t even believe it myself. A 18’er with 3 neuts… yeah, as if.

So either Apprentice is lying about the NK, or I am simply not a Jester-like neutral.

Kyo’s claim was that you were 1-day lynchproof groupscum playing as jester today.

4x4’s resolve can only be done if he dies N3, since Cent claims to be able to survive until N2 when he was bled D1.

Point is: Do you really think he will not be healed when the thread merges at D3? …well, if 4x4 dies on N3, then that confirms that we don’t have a doctor among us.

…oh. That would actually make more sense, but uh… all I can do (as either alignment) is simply refuse his theory.

Like, all I can do is empower people, and since 4x4 refuses to tell us what he did N1 under the pretense of me being a rolefishing scum, I can’t exactly prove myself either.

Vote Count

Voted Voters Votes
KyoDaz ash4fun, an_gorta_pratai 2/4
Zone_Q11 Zone_Q11, fourfourfourfour 2/4
Centuries KyoDaz 1/4

…Kyo, I can’t seem to understand you.

You push gorta to lynch Centuries. You have given your arguments as for why as well. (Props to you for that; I don’t know many people who gives arguments nowadays.)

In the worst case scenario, he would die as a dying villager anyways, right?
So… then why are you pushing Centuries to vote me, when you clearly don’t push for it at all?

I can literally keep denying your theories, because just as my Empowerer claim can’t be proven mechanically, neither can yours.

All you have to go on for your theory (i.e. your only argument of me being a 1-Shot Lynchproof) is my nihilistic behavior, coupled with the coincidence that ash4fun received the “message from the host”.

In all my posts, I keep stressing that part out, because the reason why I cannot trust ash4fun’s claim is because he simultaneously greenchecks 4x4 and redchecks me when I clearly know that he is wrong about the latter part. The worst part is: He can shrug off his redcheck on me by simply saying: “I didn’t say Zone is scum. The host simply gave me this information, so maybe the host is scum-sided?”

–back to Kyo: I don’t understand something else as well. You wanted to keep Leafia alive D1 so that she can (supposedly) self-resolve Today. So why aren’t you doing the same to Centuries? Why focus on the supposedly dying Centuries instead of either me or ash4fun?

Event 3.1

Kankri Vantas

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Worddump

N9w I realize we’ve 6een at this f9r s9me time already, 6ut at the risk 9f derailing the dial9gue y9u initiated, and may I just say h9w thrilled I am that y9u did, Karkat, I w9uld just like qualify my entire analysis 9f y9ur “Alternian culture” 6y saying that in c9ntrast with life 9n 6ef9rus, while y9ur pe9ple may have 6een engaged in vi9lent, lethal class struggle f9r milli9ns 9f sweeps, 6y n9 means d9es this imply that the 6ef9ran way 9f life was entirely with9ut pr96lematic elements, perhaps even m9re distur6ing and insidi9us f9r their lack 9f ackn9wledgement and 9pen discussi9n, particularly as a c9nsequence 9f what in my view were widely and dismayingly unexamined systemic s9cial injustices resulting fr9m the entrenched p9wer dynamics in play, dynamics strikingly similar t9 th9se 9f y9ur planet’s markedly m9re 6ellic9se iterati9n, which has 9nly served t9 fully vindicate my hyp9thesis that such a hierarchy is really predicated 9n intrinsic dysfuncti9n, and failure t9 shift all the usual narratives and undiagn9sed pr96lems int9 an 9pen, judgment-free disc9urse thr9ugh which pr96lematic issues are c9nstructively channeled int9 m9re intelligently pr96lematized avenues 9f discussi9n.
N9w 6ef9re I c9ntinue, it is 9nly decent 9f me t9 warn y9u a69ut certain triggers that are surely ahead in this essay. I mean c9nversati9n. Triggers include 6ut likely will n9t 6e limited t9 class 9ppressi9n, culling culture and vi9lence against gru6s, lusus a6use, c9mplementary and anal9g9us hate speech, pail filling, slurries and 9ther c9ncupiscent fluids, lifespan shaming, a6leist slurs, pr9lix dissertati9n… Actually, may6e it w9uld 6e easier f9r y9u t9 list y9ur triggers, and I’ll d9 my 6est t9 av9id th9se t9pics, 9r navigate them m9re delicately, if at all p9ssi6le? #TW #9ppressi9n #culling #gru6 vi9lence #lusus a6use #hem9ph96ia #pails #slurries
Great. It s9unds like y9u d9n’t have any triggers, at least n9ne that y9u kn9w a69ut. I’ll pr9ceed with cauti9n nevertheless. Just please let me kn9w if y9u start feeling triggered 6y anything I’m saying, and we can take a 6rief time-9ut while y9u summ9n y9ur m9irail t9 help pacify y9u, assuming y9u have 9ne. N9t that I’m presuming y9u d9, 6ut I heard that y9u did, is that c9rrect? If n9t, I ap9l9gize. I further ap9l9gize if y9ur 9rientati9n precludes the p9ssi6ility, as a pale ar9mantic, panquadrant demir9mantic, s9mething in the gray palesexual department 9r such, and h9pefully y9u are n9t triggered 6y such presumptu9us c9ncillian9rmative language. It w9uldn’t 6e the first time I was guilty 9f such an inexcusa6le micr9aggressi9n, and I am n9t s9 96livi9us t9 my 9wn r9mantic privilege t9 6elieve it will 6e the last time either. #c9ncillian9rmativity #micr9aggressi9ns #r9m privilege #presumptu9us #m9irails #inexcusa6le
I’m glad I 6r9ught up the su6ject 9f unexamined privilege, 6ecause it d9vetails 6eautifully with the p9int I was a69ut t9 make regarding 6ef9ran s9ciety and its savage um6ral p9tentiality which later manifested thr9ugh the kind 9f Alternian 6rutality y9u are all t99 familiar with. Th9se in the higher echel9ns 9f the hem9spectrum such as the ceruleans, 9r “6lue 6l99ds” (careful, 6eing l99se with such termin9l9gy is 9pening the fl99dgates t9 a wh9le h9st 9f t9xic signist language and hem9ph96ic slurs), when addressing the challenges faced 6y th9se l9wer 9n the spectrum, such as the midhues 9r in particular warm castes like um6ers, 9chres, 9r “rust 6l99ds” (an9ther slur, highly pr96lematic, deeply 9ffensive and triggering termin9l9gy, str9ngly impl9ring y9u steer clear 9f this term), they w9uld 6e well advised t9 check their cerulean privilege, particularly 6ef9re dismissing hardships 9r marginalizing claims 9f 9ppressi9n, which can 6e difficult f9r them t9 identify 9r empathize with fr9m their advantage9us p9siti9n within the 6ef9ran//Alternian p9wer structures. #d9vetail #pr96lematic #p9wer structures #t9xic signist language
And s9me may argue that in 9ur peaceful “ut9pian” culture that we have freed 9urselves fr9m injustice and disparities in privilege in a p9st-scarcity ec9n9my, largely equal rights distri6uted acr9ss the hem9spectrum, and theref9re exist in a “p9st-spectral w9rld” (laugh 9ut l9ud), and theref9re there is n9 need t9 champi9n imp9rtant s9cial causes and there is n9thing left t9 de6ate, 6ut really n9thing c9uld 6e further fr9m the truth. Y9u just need t9 educate y9urself and carefully investigate the l9ngstanding p9wer dynamics in play. F9r instance, a seemingly “harmless” remark fr9m a cis6l99ded cerulean t9ward an um6er 9r G9d f9r6id a 6urgundy 9r yes even a warm-identifying physically-c99ler caste, a69ut their very l9ng term future plans such as 9n the 9rder 9f centuries, then this may pr9ve t9 6e a very hurtful micr9agressi9n due t9 the fact that l9whues cann9t p9ssi6ly live that l9ng themselves, and the m9re priviliged caste c9uld easily 9utlive d9zens 9f generati9ns 9f midhues 9r hundreds 9f generati9ns 9f 6U9Ys (6urgundy-um6er-9chre-yell9wgreens, n9te please av9id descri6ing the latterm9st as “lime 6l99ds” as it has hist9rically 6een used as an especially vici9us epithet). Such remarks can further trigger painful reminders 9f h9w c99ler castes, t9 s9me extent 9JAs, 6ut CIPs and R9yal-Vs in particular, have 6een a6le t9 use their tremend9us lifespans 9ver the millenia t9 gain a strangleh9ld 9ver the s9cial 9rder, have 6een a6le t9 c9mpletely dictate 9ur s9cietal ev9luti9n 6y ensuring 9nly their cultural agendas and narratives receive the dial9gue’s air supply, assuring the c9dificati9n 9f th9se resultant ideals and deciding what “n9rmalcy” entails, and sadly these a6s9lutes 6ec9me internalized acr9ss the full spectral range, even within th9se 9f m9st c9mpr9mised privilege, and s9 y9u 6egin t9 see the cyclical nature 9f the dysfuncti9n and the resulting inertia against p9sitive change and raising awareness 9f the m9st underpr96lematized issues, which I think we can agree, is pretty pr96lematic. #p9st spectral w9rld #l9l #6U9Ys #9JAs #CIPs #R9yal Vs #narratives #agendas #narratives
And really, it’s every9ne’s 6usiness t9 examine their privilege, even 6urgundies, wh9 may 6e su6ject t9 the pitfall 9f 6elieving inc9rrectly there are n9ne 9n the scale 6eneath them wh9m they enj9y certain privileges 9ver, which 9ff-spectrum tr9lls will never kn9w, such as th9se identifying as 9ther6l99ds 9r caste-multiples, “p9ly6l99ded”, any wh9 hem9gl96ically ID as having a caste which manifests n9where (as yet kn9wn) in any9ne physically, 9r f9r that matter 9ffspecs wh9 physically d9 p9ssess such a 6l99d type, 9r “mutants” (VERY pr96lematic term, highly triggering t9 s9me, 6e warned), such as y9u and I, Karkat. 6ut this puts us 69th in a situati9n which t9 9ur kn9wledge uniquely all9ws us t9 understand and empathize with tragically underprivileged and unemp9wered gr9ups acr9ss all scuttles 9f life, thus aff9rding us 69th what I like t9 call a “uniquely underprivileged privilege”, which, yes, is a kind 9f privilege we sh9uld 69th strive t9 check as well, whenever we can. This same uniquely underprivileged perspective as I’m sure y9u kn9w was disadvantaged up9n my p9st-scratch iterati9n as well, and while I have n9 d9u6t y9u justifia6ly came t9 revere that figure 9f y9ur planet’s rich hist9ry and y9ur pers9nal lineage, and while his g9als 9f peace, equality, and a truly spectra6lind s9ciety, I’m afraid I pers9nally have tr9u6le c9nd9ning his meth9ds. I d9n’t like t9 use the term “pr96lematic” lightly, 6ut, well, his tactics were n9thing if n9t massively pr96lematic, t9 say the least, empl9ying vi9lent uprising t9 effect change, and em6laz9ning his mark up9n hist9ry and his faithful f9ll9wers with the salty fl9urish 9f a single rude, sh9uted swear w9rd, it’s n9t t9 my taste even th9ugh he is wh9 I w9uld have gr9wn up t9 6e in an9ther life. 6ut n9, I prefer t9 effect s9cial change thr9ugh rati9nal, h9nest disc9urse and c9ntri6uting t9 9ng9ing dial9gues, f9cusing 9n what sh9uld 6e the real g9als, thr9ugh keen adherence t9 the discipline 9f Pr96lematics, ensuring that we stay f9cused 9n successfully pr96lematizing a wide range 9f direly underc9mplicated s9cial dilemmas. #underc9mplicati9n #salty fl9urish #rude sh9uted swear w9rd #spectra6lind s9ciety.
It’s nice t9 see we agree 9n s9 much. May6e we are n9t s9 unalike, despite 9ur drastically different up6ringings. Anyway, as I was saying, the st9ry 9f y9ur ancest9r, and m9re imp9rtantly my exhaustive list 9f misgivings with his appr9ach t9 s9cial change, is quite a l9ng and ela69rate 9ne, 6ut it actually fits 6rilliantly within the larger m9saic which captures the 6r9ad str9kes 9f my p9st. I mean 9ur discussi9n. Trigger warnings f9r the f9ll9wing c9ntent include: ancest9r 6ashing, faith shaming, l9ud swearing, t9rture, 6urn w9unds, ship sinking… again, seri9usly, just let me kn9w if y9u 6egin t9 feel triggered 6y anything, even slightly. We’ll pause and see if we can really expl9re th9se issues, and identify exactly h9w I may have invalidated y9ur struggles. With9ut further ad9, the st9ry is as f9ll9ws: #TW #ancest9r 6ashing #shaming #swearing #t9rture #6urns #ship sinking #struggles

You come across Kankri Vantas, who want’s to monologue-- I mean give you a lecture!

To counteract this worddump of a troll, you need to train yourself to similarly give massive worddump-- I mean insightful lectures!

Create a wallpost, on whatever topic you wish. Players will be granted points based on the number of characters in their post.

All parts of your wallpost must be in coherent English, that make sense syntactically. You may include game-relevant information, at your own risk. Make sure to put it in “hide spoilers”! Ping the hosts if you think you have a submission. The host has the right to reject any degenerate entries.

You have until the beginning of the next event, at 2020-07-10T18:00:00Z

Note: Any copypasta will be immediately disqualified!

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eh kyo pushing me is a little sus tbh lmao

…this doesn’t look good. Essentially this means that anyone can just post 10k+ “a” and it will still count as a wallpost. Essentially, it’s just finding out what the maximum characters discourse can manage.

I propose that the wallpost must be about something for real and not just some random wallpost.

Kyo pushing you is fine FMPOV, but him pushing you to vote me when he literally had an agenda saying that I am a 1-Shot Lynchproof is susp as hell.

This sounds more like it! :+1:

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I mean look at the things objectively

I’m dying either way

What’s the point of lynching me unless he thinks there’s like

potential lylo soon which doesnt happen since threads merge

so idk

Yep. …so, should we wait for Kyo to respond?

I keep telling everyone about this as well, but: “What are your plans after you lynch me?”
(I will NOT back off from getting lynched Today. Me getting lynched is the easiest way to get rid of my boredom -since I am a literal Empowerer that can only target 4x4- and the easiest way to prove that ash4fun is BS’ing about his “host message”.)

I guess this is what we will do then.
Either this, or wait for people to submit their entries for the event.
Either way: It will end up in me waiting for people to respond to me.