ToS Mafia - Day 8 - (3/19) [Town wins!]

[Frostwolf103]

Yes I did, I am saying a tie is stupid

[Frostwolf103]

And group scum make sense, how?

[eevee]

@eevee-sama

SK kills are not random, but rather… smart tbh?

@sulit

Not really

They are.

SK won’t win untill they eliminate mafia.
The majority thing in 3 mafia, 1 town, 1 sk is easy to understand, but it goes even deeper when we count witch into it.

Imagine 3 mafia, 1 sk, 1 witch, 2 town.
(2 more players than previous example, so can happen earlier in the game)

Does witch side SK?

No, if they side mafia they already won due to majority.
SK needs to kill mafia or they lose. Or at least get them down to one member.

Just so witch cannot get majority earlier with mafia than they do with SK.

[Frostwolf103]

@jmwjmw27

jmw, cheese, squid, sulit, possessed

Replace Cheese, Squid and Sulit to fit the citizen claims who will you pick?

[eevee]

So yes, I do think getting mafia down to 1-2 members is a priority for SK, so his kills were… good?

[eevee]

@sulit

No, the kill last night was very… not smart. For reasons.

That’s other thing.

They did shorten the PoE, tho you are most likely dead tonight anyway.

[Frostwolf103]

Make sense.

[Possessed]

You REALLY believe SK killed Wazza on a scumread?

X to doubt

[sulit]

Durr

[eevee]

@Possessed

I was honestly half expecting Arete or Sulit to get double targeted, but SK had the self-awareness to go for a target Mafia likely wouldn’t kill.

Yeah, that’s also why his kills are smartish.

[Frostwolf103]

all of this is pointless discussion though

[Possessed]

This part I will agree with.

The other? No. If the intent was to kill Mafia, there was far likelier candidates than Wazza.

[eevee]

@jmwjmw27

If I was SK I would have gone for a non-PR claim first night that I thought was town. I think Cheese revealed themselves D2 so I might have attacked Sulit if I thought the witch would be smart and redirect the roleblocker to her. From there keep killing town PRs

Wazza was the SK kill this night right
and he’s in the POE
why would I eliminate the POE instead of hitting in the confirmed roles
and if I hit Sulit before I would know they can’t selfheal again. So if I was SK Sulit would be dead today

Yeah, that’s bad.

You kill 3 town, mafia would kill 3 town.
At this point you would pretty much lose, due to witch siding with 4 mafia (who would be alive since you didn’t kill them as our sk did in this scenario)

So zero points for that answer.

Also cause you gave scenario which is illogical AND opposite to what just happened.
Like you wanted to distance from the situation.

In short… “I wouldn’t do it guys”

[eevee]

@Possessed

You REALLY believe SK killed Wazza on a scumread?

X to doubt

No…

Maybe?

It was a great kill for them tho.

Like if they killed 0 scum… scenario which jmw said about who would they kill as sk… pretty much guarantees a lose for SK.
What happens rn is good for them tho.

[Frostwolf103]

[eevee]

I’m saying that as proven non-sk.

I would consider going for Wazza kill, leaving mafia to do job with town PRs.
Maybe except cheese, who can be both frame tool as well as consort.

This kills are smart, not sure if on accident or not, but definetly positive for SK.

[Possessed]

Maybe so. SK does need to limit mafia, but at the point of time it was 2 mafia, 1 witch, and 11 other town. You still need the mafia alive for kills, and 2 mafia at this point in time isn’t a threat.

[eevee]

I’m still giving 0 town points for jmw for “I wouldn’t do it guys” and proceeding to give game losing scenario for SK as example what they would do.

[Frostwolf103]

Great so this proves jmw isn’t SK?

@Frostwolf103

Eevee/jmwjmw27
Possessed
Datbird
Anjic89/Isaac_Gonzalez
Myelf/Italy

You still have one big issue, unless there’s place for six citizen, only five will fit in.

[eevee]

What, how did me hiving them 0 town points indicate of them not being sk