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I don’t get why we resolve pkr first. If he’s telling the truth wazza could still be scum. If we flip he board around we still have our alleged jail keeper. Pkr’s claim that he thought wazz was immune makes more sense than pretty much all of wazza’s actions surrounding his role claim.

You raise a valid point, and I’m now realizing how sticky this situation really is…

I thought it was really obvious he was implying he could revive, so I feel like the jailkeep is silly, but he did claim to be occupation immune so I can’t really blame PKR here, if V…

Pkr claims block

Isn’t this what you asked for idgi.

also an outted jailkeeper is more likely to be self resolved through night actions than someone who failed to birth a new witch and is likely vt now.

I don’t understand this metaphor?

But I’d like a private chat with the player who would solve the most. It’s like why I’m fine with lynching you as well as you actually care about this game clearly.

Personally, I agree with this, however I don’t think it’s that much of a threat since it only seems to be able to do one thing a day.

Basically, it probably can’t curse someone today.

Scum Retri?

All my actions hinted towards Retri. Look at D1.

I know I’m just saying.

Apart from the fact it tried to shoot Santa?

Who, may I add is a claimed green check for Cattail.

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the “he” i was referring to pkr being jk. as you could still be scum anything, not retri.

You don’t need to tell everybody you’re self resolving when you can just self resolve! Especially if you get a neighborhood with who you revive, it’s not like they can be wrong on who revived them!

That’s not what I’m saying though, even if this logic makes some sense, why not just leave the player who is willing to solve alive and not claim self resolving immediately?

We don’t know if the shot even had a chance to hit, this does not disprove the red herring theory.

So far the NPC has:

  • casted no votes
  • applied a curse which hasn’t visibly done anything yet (@Conduit, confirm?)
  • fired a shot that missed

There’s nothing stopping this from being a red herring.

I know. Why put on that performance if you actually are retri? You practically begged to be blocked. Arete could just vouch for you after you’ve resurrected him.

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Town! Wazza would have said nothing D1 and revived Arete D2 and then instantly claimed revived to confirm 2 people easy.

Waz didn’t do this. So either:

A) He’s not town
B) He’s been replaced by a literal coconut

Seconding this. Most of what I remember from waz d1 was that player a can self resolve him while player b can’t and maybe player c could. That level of reasoning is possible for anyone though. They will know you revived them. Plus they die again anyway, so if they don’t have a useful role/useful player then wait a cycle. The end result looks like window shopping good players (who you expect to be town) to nix day 1.

/Vote Rue

Vote Count

Accused Voters Number
EliThePsycho Santa, Rue 2/8
PokemonKidRyan Hippoyeetus, PokemonKidRyan 2/8
Hippoyeetus Wazza 1/8
Rue SirDerpsAlot 1/8
Not voting an_gorta_pratai, BillNyeTheScienceGuy, Cattail, Centuries, Conduit, ErikaFurudo, Strawberry_Shortcake, The Occult, EliThePsycho 9

Don’t lynch arete for dubious reasons

Solic is in the lead with elli catching up when wazza 180s that position and @s everyone to strong-arm the lynch. The wording here he is advocating we lynch a player he seems to townread
“because it’s best for Town and myself.”
I’m assuming best for you is self resolving by rezzing a townie. so how is lynching a townie best for town?

1 question that I want to ask to each slot

Gorta: Why aren’t you more proactive with your vote (never using it I think) despite having a fair bit amount of posts

BillNye: What is up with your attempt to wagon Erika as a CFD option, mind elaborating your read

Conduit: You were split for a while on which wagon to vote, why did you choose to vote Eli in the end?

Eli: Earlier I called you not frozen but upon a re-read you really aren’t doing much, can you produce some more reads, which you promised to do D1?

Erika: What are your reads? You voted 4 different people day 1 yet I cannot remember a single time you voiced your read

Hippo: What is up with your voting pattern, you’ve voted 16 different times day one nad most of the time it’d be votes submitted under the span of 10 minutes on 3+ people in a row

Orange: You spent a ridiculous amount of time on a vanity wagon on the bot moreover, why was your vote 1 minute before EoD on a vanity wagon despite the fact you actively SR’d Arete from what you said

PKR: Can you voice your thoughts regarding EoD yesteday? What made you go from Solic to Arete and not from Solic to Eli, especially since I don’t remember you being that stressed at EoD

Rue: You voiced the fact you supported Arete and believed them to be town yet never voted the CW to Arete? Why? Also why did you play EoD the way you did, it felt like you didn’t even notice we were at eod seeing how you kept asking people questions 1 minute before EoD and never truly cared about the wagons

SDA: What are you going to do today now that your number one scumread D1 flipped town, are you re-evaluating anything? What are your thoughts on the Arete wagon now that they flipped town?

Solic: Most of the wagon that formed on you D1 split onto two different wagons, what does that make you think? What is your opinions on the people who unvoted you when we reached near EOD1?

Shortcake: You’re the last vote on Eli and you tied wagons, what made you go from a Orange vanity wagon to the Eli wagon? What was your read on Arete at EoD and what did their flip mean concerning your reads for this D2?

Sulit: What is your read on PKR, I noticed that you flip flopped near last EOD between him and Eli

Wazza: What the fuck in your role made you go from “We shouldn’t kill Seth because they make me not become IC D2 to, we should kill Arete for selfish reasons”, makes no sense to me mech wise

Also, if this post was posted after my flip, the person who posts this is quite literally, in my opinion, always town, and note that I believe in their claim / n0


Re-evaled Towncore

Centuries - lol!me

Conditional: They are an IC, Wazza

Santa - Quite literally town 99.9% of the time, Cattail’s flip really doesn’t matter since a wolf wouldn’t fake a n0 greenpeek on a fellow wolf-mate

Cattail - In my opinion they are nearly always town, they are below Santa just off the fact that if there is one scum among Santa/Cattail, it’s always Cattail

Conduit - Their amount of solviness + the lack of TMI/Agenda that I’ve seen from reading from their ISO almost always comes from noob!town because noob!scum literally cannot fake some of what they’ve said, do not lock them as town 100% of the time but I do believe they are veryyyy likely to be town

Sulit - Regardless of my read at the present, all it takes for Sulit to not get SR’d is to consitently post without having a “I’m forced to do this tone” and I think she’s mostly clear, her anger looks like it comes from a genuine townie

Re-evaled PoE

Conditional: Wazza isn’t an IC today, kill this.

Hippo - Incoherent vote flip-flopping, just doing stuff for the sake of doing it, lack of solving + the fact I think quite literally almost everyone is townier than him makes me put him in PoE

Solic - The activity around his wagon and the fact it just simply disappeared is quite a scumtell, has room for being town but the way thread was heading last EoD makes me believe Eli and Arete are V/V and scum is on both sides

note: this was said earlier into my role pm and later on I came to the conclusion that Solic is trending upward

Erika - 0 solving, 0 reads, pressure this asap

Rue - Attitude at EoD is far too relaxed, literally doesn’t play like it’s EoD, on a whole another page asking questions and stuff, ended up on Solic which I guess is a thing but then we shouldn’t use Solic’s alignment to determine what Rue might be, TR’d Arete yet never fought for their life, looked like she knew what Arete was going to flip but didn’t bother fighting agaisnt it, if Rue flips scum it makes the Arete wagon scummier also imho

Rest of the playerlist semi-ordered without an explaination

Eli
Gorta
PKR
BillNye
Orange
SDA
Shortcake


that was my reads

That’s how I play. Look at any towngame of mine ever.

Hello planned post department? Orange is rip.

I’m not gonna edit my thoughts when it was pre-written

I can assure you Santa is town and Cattail is town 99% of the time

Wazza is fucking sus as fuck and I wouldn’t mind them dying with how they went from “never kill seth i dont self-resolve if they die” to “they are town they can die”