Umineko FM - Game Over - Mafia Wins

[Cattail]

I feel like I can fairly comfortably call

Myself
Santa
Hippolytus
Conduit
Centures

With

an_gorta_pratai
ZoneQ11

as people I lean but am not ready to truly “core”, per se.

Which makes me think all or most wolves likely remain in

EliThePsycho
ErikaFurudo
PokemonKidRyan
Rue
SirDerpsAlot
Strawberry_Shortcake
Wazza

[ErikaFurudo]

its an umineko thing to call people incompetent

[Cattail]

???

So did you call him incompetent only because of roleplay, or were you using it as a synonym, or what?

What did you mean when you called him incompetent.

[Zone_Q11]

Could you please elaborate why you think Santa is town but Rue is scum?

[Cattail]

I have a night 0 greencheck on Santa that is 100% town!

[ErikaFurudo]

look im really not trying to shittalk through you. He’s just made me repeat myself a couple of times and it was annoying. they said they knew the flavor and since that or tiny food bombs are the biggest memes from the game they wouldn’t trip. dont try some perspective slip bullshit or I’ll say it in red.

[Cattail]

@ErikaFurudo

or I’ll say it in red.

Pardon? I don’t understand.

[ErikaFurudo]

lemme find it

[an_gorta_pratai]

@Centuries

I don’t think Wazza is able to pre-plan something this complicated and reliant on townies believing him as scum while doing it with PKR out of anyone!!

I agree and they were clearly softing this claim yesterday

@Hippolytus

Waz has done quite a few AtEs in a very simialir way of “oh dammnnn i wish that didnt happen im so sad fuuuck”. I cant quote any of the top of my head but I cld find them if i cba (which i cant). But yeah dont clear them at all, esp considering they were 2 slots super on my radar already im not on board with them being out of dying at all.

I want you to read Wazza’s d1 again

@Hippolytus

Despite saying I wasn’t gonna vote outside the 3 i said earlier i am just going to

/vote Gorta

cuz he likely flipping mafia.

I won’t and I will give my takes in a bit (need some food)

@Centuries

Gorta: Why aren’t you more proactive with your vote (never using it I think) despite having a fair bit amount of posts

I am always very careful with my vote. I was going to vote yesterday, but I fell asleep

[Zone_Q11]

Hypothetically, if you were able to kill yourself right now to prove Santa is town, would you do it?

[Cattail]

Nope! I have slight secret reasons for this but it would only serve to hurt.

[ErikaFurudo]

This is the joke (red statements are absolute truth)

sorry for the confusion.

[ErikaFurudo]

I couldn’t find normal erika’s one when she blasts Maria (a child) with that one, much funnier.

[Cattail]

I don’t know much about flavor and so continuing this interrogation probably is out of my realm! I still don’t get a good feeling on the way you handled it but I’m not going to condemn you for it as I am missing at least some form of context.

[PokemonKidRyan]

@Cattail

He goes straight from hard rolefishing Wazza to constantly repeating they should be trusted and for Arete to die.

I was trying to get Wazza to claim their role so that we could have appropriate protection on him.
As I was a jailkeep and did not want to fuck anything up I felt uncomfortable but did what I did due to the occ immune claim in the end.

If you think about my actions in that way my logic tracks

@Cattail

This post is already useless ("Support do your stuff, Social I don’t know, Prince choose wisely ???) and it entirely leaves out my night zero check!!! Like, it’s an actively harmful post. Orange pointed it out too, he disregarded my check in an otherwise useless post, I don’t like this in the slightest!

I already went over the fact that I missed Santa. Furthermore, I did the first bit to emphasise that I am protective as I was saying examples and on purpose left out Wazza to signal that I was on him already.

@Cattail

His reactions to EoD pushes is oddly inconsistent as well. He shades bill for voting him and says sulit is wrong. This feels like nearly blatant TMI, honestly.

Maybe, just maybe I scumread Bill and townread Sulit so there was a fucking reason why I would treat them differently. Wowee

[Cattail]

@PokemonKidRyan

I was saying examples and on purpose left out Wazza to signal that I was on him already.

Oh this actually… explains quite a bit.

[Rue]

Good evening, and apologies for my absence.

I’m inclined to move Zone up in my readslist since his entrance, I think the way he formed his own conclusion on Wazza and PKR was quite town-indicative.

[ErikaFurudo]

i think i know wazza character/fakeclaim but ill sit on it.

[Wazza]

@Zone_Q11

Was the ability 1-shot and/or did he get a refund?

1-Shot. Blame PKR and I. I claimed Occ Immune and for protections so PKR jailkept me. We never lynch me today and rarely lynch PKR (despite the amount of votes on him)

@Zone_Q11

Can someone explain the self-vote? I don’t believe 2 votes are enough for PKR to start AtE’ing regardless of alignment.

PKR feels guilt for blocking my res.

@Centuries

Reminder that in a world with Wazza/Eli/PKR as town it’s pretty easy to find the entirety of the scumteam!!

Why do you townread Eli so much?

@Centuries

I don’t think Wazza is able to pre-plan something this complicated and reliant on townies believing him as scum while doing it with PKR out of anyone!!

I strongly agree that I could do it, but not with PKR. This would have to be pre-planned and a solo-mission from an NK. The only ways I was able to pull off my NK wins is based on idiocy, panicy claims and luck. Not to mention I was clearly softing myself so hard yesterday, “Lynching Town Arete has no drawbacks” is the most bullshit thing a town who couldn’t revive a town could say.

@Hippolytus

Waz has done quite a few AtEs in a very simialir way of “oh dammnnn i wish that didnt happen im so sad fuuuck”. I cant quote any of the top of my head but I cld find them if i cba (which i cant). But yeah dont clear them at all, esp considering they were 2 slots super on my radar already im not on board with them being out of dying at all.

Stop calling it AtE, all it does is piss me off more. I’ve literally never AtE’d and all my anger is genuine. Sadness I can agree with but I’ve never used it in an AtE situation as that’s a dick move.

@Zone_Q11

Well Wazza was wrong in the end, so what about it? What’s so AI about someone yelling his lungs out to force the mass to mislynch a town?

I wasn’t Wrong. I wasn’t right either. I suspected Arete but I was going to res them if they flipped Town.

@ErikaFurudo

then just push arete without claiming psuedo ic but im actually retri guys. Who the fuck cares about the neighborhood?

Because a neighborhood with a good player with motivations to play and win the game is how I fucking play this game. Look at games like DGADT where I had a Mason with Apprentice who is a good player and I fucking owned that game because of him. Having someone by my side to talk to motivates me to play the game and win. I don’t believe I’ve lost a game where I’ve had a mason.

@ErikaFurudo

the result is the person waz wanted to solve with is now dead and no one has access to him. and if thats the best choice why didnt you vote arete cent?

Because of Town and Mechanical Mistakes.

@EliThePsycho

the last time you sheeped you got it incorrect, did you not?

@Cattail

Wazza / PKR shenanigans are… incredibly frustrating on all parts because the plays of both of them make little sense but unfortunately they are both capable of doing that silly kind of things!

How the actual fuck do they make little sense.

I would never have revived Seth D1 if they flipped Town, no matter mechanica.

My posts D1 indicated that I could only revive Town, so I kept saying I’d be resolved by D2-D3 when there would be a Town dead or a player I’m fine with chatting with. Arete was top wagon for so long and at first I trusted them (But of course their claim going towards the dead which is similar to my claim which revives the dead) made me want them lynched more. However, if they flipped Town I could have a Town buddy I can discuss with who get’s their mechanics back anyway.

@Hippolytus

My POE is:

PKR
Wazza
Eli
Derps
Gorta

Can you just fuck off? You clearly haven’t read anything.

@Hippolytus

Waz and PKR with 0 votes after the dumb stunt is pretty weird.

You’d think if they were town Scum would be jumping on them no? Still think they’re bad.

I’m never the lynch today at this point. This has been established as if PKR flips jailkeeper then I clearly wasn’t lying about being prevented from reviving a player. May still be scum, but at least y’all know I’m telling the truth. Either way, I’m avoiding lynching PKR anyway. You’re using basic manipulation tactics to get what you want talking about the current situation despite PKR only just losing all his voters.

@Hippolytus

It included myself and PKR on that wagon and dissappitated very quick lol,

Oh like every wagon you vote on?

@PokemonKidRyan

I was trying to get Wazza to claim their role so that we could have appropriate protection on him.

Yes yes, I understood all your hints, PKR. But I didn’t expect a Jailkeeper since I forgot it existed. You hinted towards it so hard for me (The protection part)

[Cattail]

I think flavor is even more unhelpful than mechanics at this point and I don’t particularly like fixation on it as it doesn’t help and is easily fakeable.