Umineko FM: Turn of the Golden Witch - Game Over - Wolves Win

[Marluxion]

hence eli is not only not just VT, He’s an IC and also an alignment cop proxy

[Aelin]

O
Oh, I see

[Marluxion]

he got “no result” because min roleblocked spak

[Marluxion]

ghana not min sorry

[Appelsiini]

I’m gonna go through my bookmarks and elaborate on the readlist
Other than that, I’m just gonna chill for most of the time

[Chloe]

@Aelin

Spak feels like he’s felt kinda just stagnant, I also enjoyed Wind’s case on him. Alongside that, I feel like he perspective slipped multiple times, the most recent one I saw while reading up being post 4529, with

@Spak

since Light’s play was so bad early that both wolves and town would take a look and be like “huh, that’s sus”.

since I feel like that’s more or less saying that wolves know I’m not a wolf and looking at if I could be a neut or something and idk its so late and i want to shoot myself

are there other examples of perspective slips

i didnt even think about the possibility of this being TMI because i havent had you as a villager for a bit lol

this is where i have an obligation to say ‘slips arent real’
but good catch ig

[Aelin]

Hm
Okay
Well that’s a fucky wucky lil circle but I guess I’ll just give it a and move on

[Marluxion]

We further know Belphegor is town because of the color of the name “Belphegor” in Gorta’s flip

[Chloe]

caaaaaaaaaas

you should claim
ftr

youre top wagon and uh
dunno if thats changing any time soon

[Marluxion]

so tl;dr
from what we mechanically know now

Eli is a VT
Who is an IC
Who is an Alignment cop proxy
Who can also perform the mafia factional kill

[Marluxion]

(and he still thinks his role is ass )

[Aelin]

Y’know what
that’s less bullshit than literally anything in Umineko so I’ll accept it for now

[Aelin]

@Aelin

Umineko

Umineko FM 1*

[Chloe]

@Chloe

are there other examples of perspective slips

liiiiight

you said he slipped multiple times

can u get the others pl0x

[Chloe]

wait expand on this

why does spak have to be partnered with gghana if wolf?

why cant gghana have just RB’d the guy and be a villager?

am confuse

[Aelin]

@Spak

You say that like it’s a given there’s a scum on the Light wagon

this is the first post that goes “what the fuck?” to me

@Spak

I still hold that Derps was a better info lynch than Light, since Light’s play was so bad early that both wolves and town would take a look and be like “huh, that’s sus”. With Derps, we at least woulda had the wagon analysi

@Spak

and if it’s town!Light/scum!Gorta, I’d have no reason to swap my vote over there

@Spak

YBW town lean based on his start of D1 being vastly different from the one game I played with him (he was lone wolf)

seems more like TMI

@Spak

He then went to Light and then (I’m guessing) didn’t want to throw his scum buddy under the bus, so he went in hard on SDA

highly self-aware

@Spak

and then comes up with a “he seems wolfy, but his play doesn’t make sense aside from roles astand wouldn’t put in the game, so we shouldn’t kill him” (which is crappy reasoning, because he must be wolf/town/3p and I don’t think there’d be a jester either)

huh

@Spak

He says that Light is kinda sketch early on when everyone thinks Light is kinda sketch

doesn’t line up with earlier thoughts

@Spak

And I think that Gorta deciding SDA+you was a scumteam reflected well on you (unless he was planning on SDA’s flip forcing him to backtrack, since you weren’t on the table that day?)

@Spak

(and no, I think I’ll forget Chloe wolf)

@Spak

Maybe; it’d be useful info to try and figure which wagon wolves would’ve prioritized, but that might only be evident after a Light flip.

@Spak

The BP claim at that point wouldn’t have made sense from a town PoV, nor from a scum PoV unless there was a bigger plan

@Spak

My conclusion: It looks like they’ve done a good amount of wagon analysis, trying to figure out where wolves would be going in any given scenario (sometimes realtime). They seem pretty lighthearted and jokey in-thread, which is what I’d expect from a townie. Don’t know their meta, but I think they’re null-town imo.

Doesn’t really match up with what they said earlier in the paragraph
like they ignored most of the shit they wrote and focused on the last line or so

@Spak

whoever-we-lynched-yesterday (can’t remember the name; think it started with a G)

they’ve stated the name multiple times without trouble so i feel that this is just… ???

[Aelin]

christ i was working on it

[Marluxion]

@Chloe

why cant gghana have just RB’d the guy and be a villager?

@Marluxion

and if he was a wolf that could just give players that message, he would have not succeeded because he was roleblocked

bomp

[Marluxion]

hence
he’s either legit
or partners with ghana and both are lying

(note, even if spak is legit ghana can still be a wolf)

[Chloe]

sorry im like

falling asleep at my desk and therefore becoming impatient

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