Umineko FM: Turn of the Golden Witch - Game Over - Wolves Win

That’s so wholesome I love it

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Anyway, @WindwardAway I see no reason why your role and Ghana’s role should exist in the same setup unless at least one of you is scum.

no

windward is queen

wtf, Light got redchecked by Spak/Eli?
I’m not super surprised if he’s scum, but that wasn’t at all my first guess based on the kill pattern that PKR revealed. If Light flips literally anything other than scum, I’m 100% fine if you reevaluate me or check me somehow.

you find fault with a 1-shot RBer and an RBer in the same setup, and yet you don’t find fault with a 1-shot firefighter and a firefighter?

If you read my post, you can see I’m extremely doubting Ghana as a player and YBW as a player and a role

This is worded poorly
player = socially
role = mechanically

I did see that, yes, and I promise to take it into account if you flip town or really any non-KP role, you have my word. I’m pushing you mainly from a mech standpoint, even though I thought your thread presence was weird since D1 anyway

Explain this, please.

The way you honed in on Chloe so early on D1 for reasons that pretty much nobody else saw, and then gave up the push on D2 since she was being consensus townread for the most part. I wouldn’t have roleblocked you in the first place if I didn’t think you were a suspect, and I was not at all planning to block you twice in a row, but when PKR outed the information that there had been a failed kill, and the only other RB claim was GGhana on Spak (which was confirmed as a blocked cop check), I thought I’d try blocking you one more time to see how many kills would happen.
Two kills happened, which could mean an arsonist targeted Chloe or Derps, but I’m like 99% sure Derps targeted Chloe, and either wolves or arsonist targeted Derps, which means that the failed kill PKR saw on Eli had to be from another source.
The only person who was roleblocked last night that I know of is you, specifically because I roleblocked you, and GGhana did not because he only had a single use.
And it all adds up too well imo. If Spak’s check is correct, you’re just a wolf who failed the factional kill, and the arsonist has been killing people instead. If you’re telling the truth and you’re not a wolf, I have no idea why you’d be redchecked but I still feel that my roleblock has merit.
If you flip town, or if you flip any sort of role that has no KP whatsoever, I invite everyone to check me tonight or just yeet me next, as we have enough leeway to do so even though I’m town. But if you aren’t a killer role, then there has to be another roleblocker or redirector who’s stopping the kills, and in that case it has to be a scum role because they haven’t claimed.

I see. That’s… really not that good reasoning considering what actually was going on, but it’s acceptable enough I guess? Like… I can’t really follow your line of thought.

Knew it.

/vote Light @Wazza @astand

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the thing is that by EoD1 I started wondering if I was just wrong on thinking you were scum because your push on Chloe was pretty bold and you weren’t afraid of continuing it despite there being no consensus. But I RB’d you just in case, and then really didn’t think about it D2 tbh until PKR said there had been a failed second kill on Shurian. So yes, my line of thought is pretty broken because of the timing of PKR’s info. I didn’t even make the connection right away on the failed kill until it was time to pick a night action, and I just RB’d you again to see if there would be another failed kill. I waited for PKR to out his results, and lo and behold, there was.
But as I said before, if anyone else wants to clear you and claim to have RB’d someone else, they’d better do it ASAP. I just think it’s way too coincidental that I targeted you twice and a kill failed twice.

4/6

Be careful we don’t hammer too early lmao

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It’s alignment. We’re told “Other” if they’re 3p.

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I plan to self-vote unless you guys can stop talking about me today, because otherwise, only misinformation is going to be a factor for today. So if you can ignore me while voting me, that’s cool, and feel free to yeet me and shit but otherwise today is going to be useless and I’d rather not have that.

Vote Count

Accused Voters Number
Light WindwardAway, GGhana, ChopChop, Spak 4/6
ChopChop PokemonKidRyan 1/6
Not voting EliThePsycho, Light, Marluxion, min, Nightingale, YoubutWorse 6

I’m fine with discussing slots other than you. I’ve already given my stance and my info, so I’m willing to change the topic so we optimize use of today. I know you already gave your thoughts, too, in your latest readlist.

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My b, I shoulda checked VC. Got too excited lol

/unvote

Regardless, Light was the check last night. If Eli got a wolf result, that just confirms what I already suspected.