[VFM] A Hat in Time Cop13er - Town Wins!

[Silviu200530]

This reasoning is weird

[Appelsiini]

Oh, yes^^ Me trying it out was essentially me testing to see what would happen, since as I said, Psyx hasn’t received much pressure from anyone, really.

You could say it’s an RT, but it was done with the intention to push someone I thought is wolfy rather than just faking a read on someone

[Psyx]

@Appelsiini

Convenient, as in “all of your reads followed the general consensus that is likely to be incorrect” which comes from wolves more often than not. If you’re a wolf and we had a bunch of villagers in the PoE, all you’d have to do is to sheep everyone else and let them be killed.

I have no context for your other reads because I’ve been doing other things. I don’t have a meta on you, so I won’t clear you for it because others say so, even though I do acknowledge that it makes you more likely to be a villager. I’m analyzing your behavior directly, and I didn’t like your reads, so tell me; What reason do I have to believe that your reads are genuine and you’re not just sheeping everyone else?

Why do you scumread Centuries and Silviu?

I’m sorry, I believe I was the first one to Centuries on D1, while everybody else was either looking at LHF or townleaning him for his RT on Pigeon. How did that turn into me sheeping everybody??? Which one of my reads didn’t you like, exactly? Just my scumleans on Centuries and Silviu?

[LiLi041]

@Appelsiini

Sure~

• The people voting Centuries need to actually elaborate on why, because as far as I can see, there’s no good case on him. I forgot that Ruri is voting him too; I’d like her to explain that.
• Just me responding to Psyx, because they’re one of the people I need to get a read on and I wanted them to answer my questions
• Psyx has somewhat wolfy reads and no one has questioned them/put them under pressure, which is wolfy
• Thread atmosphere being weird is important to point out, unless we want to run around like headless chickens! It’s also just giving my perspective on the game atm, and what my plan is approaching EoD

Alrighty, so… only 1/4 points in your catch-up is relevant to your SR + vote from yesterday.

I wasn’t too far off in my summary.

So what do you think the consensus reads are right now btw?

[LiLi041]

@Appelsiini

You could say it’s an RT, but it was done with the intention to push someone I thought is wolfy rather than just faking a read on someone

You didn’t push them in reality, that’s the problem
You barely even gave anything for her to defend against, much less make your SR/wolfy points loud and clear

[Silviu200530]

@Appelsiini

Psyx has somewhat wolfy reads and no one has questioned them/put them under pressure, which is wolfy

Honestly, I thought about the possibility of Marl saying they’re a soneji (or what-cha-you-call-it) and their constant scumreading on me looks opportunistic for me but considering that Alice is repeating that even if is true or not But lili sees them as townie and they’re the closest of friends so I’ve thought that psyx might be town even if I have them on null.

[Silviu200530]

@LiLi041

You barely even gave anything for her to defend against

Um… isn’t psyx’s point to find that herself?

[Psyx]

@Appelsiini

What brought this on?

Opposite directions, in a “Psyx is very wrong and the actual scumteam are the people she’s townleaning” way.

[LiLi041]

@Silviu200530

Um… isn’t psyx’s point to find that herself?

if someone sticks a rando vote on me out of nowhere, beyond asking “why” or saying “get your vote off”, I’m not going to dig for the reason that may not even have been written out before so I can kiss up and defend myself

do you expect Psyx to do that?

[Appelsiini]

I uh. Don’t have the time to worry about that, actually.

I’ve been caught up in IRL stuff for 10+ hours and I might or might not be asleep by EoD, and I don’t feel like you guys will be alright by yourselves unless I take charge and push things to the right direction. Because as it stands, you’ve lacked that direction and that’s why we have 3-3-3 wagons with 2 of them being definitely town

[Appelsiini]

Silviu, why do you keep liking my posts

[Silviu200530]

Hm? I like the reasoning behind them

[Silviu200530]

Do you want me to stop?

[Appelsiini]

No need. My notifications are just going brr

[Silviu200530]

Ahhhh, sorry

[LiLi041]

@Appelsiini

push things to the right direction.

and the right direction is… Psyx?

[LiLi041]

also can you answer my earlier question

what was mistyx being “consistent” about when she SRed you three for not liking the consensus PoE

[LiLi041]

@Silviu200530

I meant to say is to read Appel’s ISO through because you looked like you forgot details from it

@Silviu200530 answer me

what did I “forget”

[Silviu200530]

In a second, Appel kept saying that “I said that… did you look at my ISO?”

[Appelsiini]

@LiLi041

look, you can correct me if I remembered wrong, but I feel like from when I read through your ISO, I got this:

You use votes to make a point + to emphasis your current argument. It looks good, but you don’t push your target after. You just make your point, dump a vote, and do nothing. Then you have a new target and it repeats.

One or two votes like that is fine. But the majority of your votes look like that. Using the Psyx vote as an example, yes I understand you were busy during the day, but what you’ve posted so far shows 0 indication of trying to convince others to join. It feels like you’re very detached in a bad way and are just content with being on a little vanity wagon by yourself.

This is more of a meta thing, but one of my weakest points is pushing people. I’ve been trying to fix that, but I’m sure that anyone can tell you that I’m the kind of person who analyzes people rather than interacts with them.

However, relying on self-meta is lame and I don’t do that, so believe it or don’t