[VFM] A Hat in Time Cop13er - Town Wins!

[Mistyx]

i am chloe now

/unvote

[Mistyx]

wdym

[Silviu200530]

If we assume that Eli is actually being bastard with my role and the color tone of my rolecard then I must say you lied about all the reasons you had on me because automatically you had TMI, right?

[Marluxion]

Look at their iso and tell me if you think she’s wolfing

[Marluxion]

Or are you actually planning on backreading the entire thing raw

[Mistyx]

lol no

i did take a look at appel iso and came out

inconclusive

[Marluxion]

Same as me basically then
Decisively unhelpful but I appreciate it nonetheless

[Alice]

I feel Appel’s >rand V, tbfh.

[Mistyx]

are you pocketing me

[Silviu200530]

I agree.

[Mistyx]

okay anyway

next thing im going to do is breakfast

later nerds

[Silviu200530]

I wonder if Marl responded to the question I had, hold on

[Marluxion]

No you are literally the only window I have into the thread that isn’t fucking mired in insanity

[Silviu200530]

Eat your greens

[Mistyx]

so yes but with justification

[Marluxion]

More or less
Before you got here I was kinda hard stuck and just resigned to voting Wazza

[Mistyx]

alright

i’ll read up more after i get something to eat

[Silviu200530]

@Marluxion

Silviu is also far out posting his last wolfgame, he’s had some super fucking questionable posts though

Uhhh which game

[Appelsiini]

I'm so slow at this, it's frustrating

@Marluxion

I don’t care if you’re joking I care if you’re wolfing
So start being transparent and stop being lazy

I don’t have a lot of patience for those who treat communication as a one-way street. I’m here now, and catching up <3

@Ruri

Well, I think Alice is V here. Appel, I’m guessing is V too.
Chloe and Silviu are debatable slots for me.

And I’m watching out for Marl. In a recently finished game, W!Marl tried to pocket me. Could be trying the opposite now.

What makes them debatable? The nightkill is heavily indicates that Chloe is V from what I gathered, unless wolves aren’t interested in cophunting. There’s technically a chance that they just wanted to get a false clear on someone, but given how demotivated Chloe was during Day 1, I don’t think wolves would go to such lengths. Pigeon flipping V… I don’t know if that makes her look better or not, I still her actions Day 1 were mostly NAI, weh. It’s a matter of “was the brief comment from Pigeon enough to warrant a wallpost to hard-defend him” which I still don’t entirely agree with, but I’d also feel bad if I’m just pushing someone who correctly identified and defended LHF - for a while, at least.

@Ruri

Pushing me for no access to the site is a very poor reason, and maybe an attempt to look TWTBAW. In Marl’s wolf game, he tried to derp the setup.

@Marluxion this is one of those lame takes. Lying about non-game-related things would be weird, and I don’t think you really believe that they’d go radio silent for 24+ hours voluntarily, unless wolves have been in an excellent position right from the start (and thus wouldn’t need Ruri’s contribution to the game)

@Alice

W!Marl’s basically a wet noodle while here’s kind of the opposite now lol.

I think he’s just villaging.

I don’t treat Marl as a polarized player anymore, for better or worse. He knows how to be a decent wolf, and he’s good at powerwolfing and taking refuge in audacity (see: RWBY FM) so I wouldn’t clear him for his tone alone

He also doesn’t like to be read by meta when it’s inconvenient for him, but that’s beyond the point

@Ruri

I looked through Psyx’s ISO, and am unsure about them.

Asked questions but didn’t attempt to make any reads out of the interactions. Most of the questions and answers were basic and doesn’t seem to push their thoughts either way. Busy work.

Not villagery to me, but it could be playstyle.

Are hedgy reads normal for V!Ruri
This is meh

@Psyx

I disagree. In a wolf!ZoneWazza & town!Lili scenario, pushing Lili would have very likely made her “bleed town” (which you and I, and probably other people catch on) and make his effort useless if his intention was a Lili lynch. Now that I reread that part of the discussion, Lili was just talking to Zone and not attacking him; if he pushes her, it might backfire and make her tunnel him in retaliation instead. The only benefit in pushing her would be if he paused right when she’s bleeding and say he just wanted to make sure of her alignment and maybe pocket/towncred for it.

He never did say why he thought she was obv!town, right? What if it was just TMI?

But would it make sense for T!ZoneWazza to push Lili if he thought she was obvtown? I understand the logic behind this, but I think you’re using your knowledge of their meta to predict their actions rather than analyzing them. Something something jumping to conclusions? There’s probably a better term for this that I’m not remembering right now

What’s your overall read on Zone/Wazza right now? Here you’re just insinuating things, but do you actually believe in this take?

@Psyx

Do you actually have reasons for wanting me dead or is this just you not wanting to admit that you’re basically OMGUS-ing me?

I see what you’re doing FYI. You’re dismissing all my sus points against you with “this is all IIOA”, “I don’t care about your slot”, “wordsalad.txt” and saying “cop just waste a check on Psyx and let’s move on”. How in the world are people townleaning you like wtf

I like the boldness, but I also caught a glimpse of a post Cent made and if that man isn’t a threadspewed villager, I don’t know who is
The whole thread has him as GTH W and that should ring some alarm bells if anything. The way this is going, I’d take a good look at anyone who starts pushing Cent

@Psyx

Could’ve also been because Cream and I would have called her out on it. Lissi is more solve-y than what she’s done so far, and the times she didn’t do that I straight-up told her she was in her scum/non-town meta.

Can you quote some of the posts where she’s been in her scumrange? If she’s in her scum meta, are you pushing her right now? If not, then…

@Psyx

What’s with this read. I mean, of course she’s going to be clueless; she just arrived? Being clueless is literally the super easiest thing to fake as a wolf?

Lis, have your solving skills regressed to this point?

(I guess that answers it)

@Alice

I’m not, tbfh. I think Cent’s prolly wolfing by now.

His SoD1 was good, but everything after it was bleh.

@Alice

I think wolves are just Wazza/Centuries/Silviu by now, tbfh.

I’m audibly groaning at people’s takes
No offense, of course! But just, god. I disagree with so many of them.

Do you think they’ve had any interactions that look like W/W?

@Psyx

Walk your talk, mister. Tell me HOW/WHICH POINTS I WAS WRONG AT instead of plugging your ears and saying “you’re wrong, you’re wrong reeeeeeeee” like a toddler

@Centuries

lol misrepresent someone for the sake of it

@Psyx

I’m just pissed at you and how people are just ignoring what I’m saying

@Centuries

Nah I don’t feel like it

@Psyx

smile

As bad as I feel for Psyx, I like the energy they’re radiating here
Feels like V/V

@Chloe

I have legitimately zero read on her which is why I’m asking the person here who has claimed she’s very easily readable based on meta or whatever what alignment she thinks she is

I probably shouldn’t townread this, but no one can stop me so I’m going to do it anyway

@Alice

As a wolf she kinda has a more narrow view of the game-state and for her to already be assessing multiple slots at a time like that’s fairly villagery.

What do you consider to be narrow? She entered the game somewhat late, so assessing multiple slots is to be expected since she’d have to make up for the first half of D1

@Psyx

Townlean: Chloe, Marl, Wazza, Appel, Lili

@Psyx

Scumteam should be Centuries + Silviu + one of the nulls, unless I’m reading everything wrong and it’s something like Chloe + Marl + Wazza or something.

Why LiLi?
I don’t like either of these, to be honest. These reads feel very
Convenient?

Do you think the consensus PoE as of now is correct? And could you give me your opinion on the game state as of now?

@Marluxion

Because he didn’t freeze or seem even remotely nervous
he’s just being silviu
he’s only wolfed once before

Once again, I disagree with this take

@Silviu200530

Ah lol, I was trying to dodge Marl’s questions.

Why?

@Marluxion

Pigeon was town Silviu IS town and Ruri might be town

The wolves are deep and if we play according to PoE instead of by wolf hunting in the “Obvious towns” we are going to lose

This is a Marl game and Vulgard is a wolf

Are you going to acknowledge the less-LHF-y people who are PoE’d?

This is exactly what I talked about with Alice yesterday, as she was insistent on playing by PoE along with Chloe, and that’s the main reason I wanted to put pressure on those two. Who’s the scumteam, in your opinion?

@Silviu200530

Oh c’mon, I was nervous as town in Pokemon 9’er even though that was like 10 months ago

@Marluxion

I wasn’t calling you nervous, i was saying the opposite
why are you suddenly being defensive?

@Silviu200530

Oh, am saying that you shouldn’t read me if you want to scumread me

@Silviu200530

you shouldn’t check if I’m frozen or nervous as it happens as both alignments.

I don’t entirely understand this, but Silviu jumping to his own defense when he wasn’t even being pressured is very… wowee

[Silviu200530]

@Appelsiini

I’m so slow at this, it’s frustrating

I love that you take the time and effort to do this, here’s some hugs.