[VFM] A Hat in Time Cop13er - Town Wins!

6 do you think I’m mafia or something

I like how Psyx is now just 6 :joy_cat: :joy_cat:

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Hold on, I’ll fetch it for you and guide what’s wolfy.

Did you read my case on Vul yet

@Chloe

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*pats*

If Zone/Wazza is wolf, yes.

I’d take that over the others misspelling or mispronouncing my name any time of the day lol

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marl why you gotta pull me into your damn tunnel
im too scatterbrained and tired to figure out if this is right but i can feel the confirmation bias beginning to kick in

i’m becoming Alkali again

Because everyone else is ignoring me!!!

@Chloe

Try to look how I’m interacting with the other mafia teammates here, but please keep in mind that at the time I was discouraged from making any reads because I was confused on how to do so where I didn’t even try.

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Chloe, what’cha want to understand from the here or the Duality thread?

Yeah, I think it’s an interesting case that has some merit to it.

I think it needs to stew in my brain a little longer.

Question: Does Vul ever push to vote 0 posters as town?

I know that I have that habit so it would be NAI coming from me, but idk if he does too.

i’ll let you know if i have questions after i give it a quick skim

Self meta is garbage but literally anyone in thread who knows me will tell you I’m so far out of wolf range I’m infringing on foreign territory across the baltan sea

Anyways, looks specifically where Lukundo presses against Windy out of nowhere for no good reason, I’m actively abstaining from saying anything regarding Lukundo at all.

Have never once seen Vul push for a 0 poster to die as town, no

I know Zone’s no longer around, but I just wanted to comment on this. During the instances I saw Zone pressure Lili, at least one time he wasn’t even voting for her and just kept on posting attacks against her (Wild Ride to Bastion).

Am I reading this correctly?

“Zone is getting scumread for legit reasons, and he feels frustrated about that, which feels townie”

Does frustration have to be alignment-indicative and not just a normal response to being scumread, period?

When I said I was paranoid about Marluxion, I meant behavior like this where he seems like he’s pocketing/buddying-up to someone. Feels like he’s taking advantage of the situation to make himself look townie.

Can’t comment because I’ve never played with mafia!Zone (just spectated him as neutral) but okay.

Considering he shaded Tilg before for doing AtE defense… :eyes:

Okay, on one hand, I’ve only seen neutral!Zone being conscious about how people are seeing him (whether he’s in townlean or not), but on the other hand I don’t see why Zone would reject an offered hand. Is this scum theatre? I don’t think Zone’s the type to easily self-destruct, so if he’s wolf then the only possible interpretation is that he thinks he’s going to be lynched and is distancing from a scumbuddy.

Was it? It was the only weird thing to me, along the veins of “Why would she feel happy if I’m just doing what I usually do?” but she’s my townlean so welp

Seems like he wants to change the focus of the conversation here. Vulgard and Appel’s sus against Zone were valid, but he kept pushing them back without actually properly rebutting those sus points. His only defense is a meta-read on Zone. Like, does he put much confidence in meta-reads to put someone in a towncore like that?

Appel: Couldn’t he be just mad about being scumread when he’s got RL stuff going on?
Marl: -no response-
Appel: Do you think Zone’s handling of Lili’s slot is more likely to come from town?
Marl: Don’t care about how he handled to Lili, affects my read 0%
Vulgard: Zone being pissed is not very alignment indicative for him
Vulgard: Zone’s vote against Alice seemed constructed, because he went after the person pushing Lili instead of pushing Lili himself.
Marl: Zone and Lili are from the same homesite; you’re not meant to understand all their little references. Why does that make them a wolf?

Lili thought Zone was being weird when he wasn’t pushing her himself and was going after Alice instead. I thought Zone was being weird. Marl’s defense here could just be boiled down to

When was your last wolfgame?

yar

What happened here? :eyes: Why is the site saving drafts I’ve already posted?

Earlier this week

ye i’ll pretty much die on the hill of marl being town and i don’t quite understand how the other FoLers don’t, or didn’t, see it

idk if he’s being plopped into PoE for miselim down the line or if they genuinely can’t see he’s obvtowning but its weirdze