[VFM] Elf Gold Rush - Game Over. Humans Win!

It got cut off badly

Every hour Eli spends not posting is an hour of my townread on him dwindling, because I know from personal experience that he has problems existing in the thread.

That said, I still think his start was far out of wolfrange to the point that itā€™s probably just clearing and I shouldnā€™t worry about it.

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Iā€™m not at all liking the wagon. Clown has seemed shifty all game, zone is contradicting himself in posts, and city has barely contributed

thatā€™s exactly my point, though
I donā€™t think theyā€™re ever W/W and exactly one of them is a wolf. I highly doubt theyā€™re both town.
that being said, as Iā€™m still pushing the Whysper wagon, people are jumping onto pigeon. I mean yes, pigeon and Whysper could be teammates, but I am curious to know, if people donā€™t think the Whysper wagon is viable, why arenā€™t they hopping on cloned? It seems like either one or the other is mafia, so thatā€™s what I really meant by counterwagon.

The pigeon wagon literally looks like people are trying to divert attention off of Whysper and yet also go for one of the most LHF slots if pigeon is town. As I said, I havenā€™t heard anyone say they thought Whysperā€™s slot is town except min, and min didnā€™t give a lot of detail on their reasoning other than that they didnā€™t think Silviu was out of his usual meta, which isnā€™t a strong reason because heā€™s within both his town and scum meta but he never made any obvtown posts that I usually see from him when heā€™s town (and I donā€™t mean the ones where he calls himself obvtownā€¦ there are other things Iā€™m looking for).

so my question is, if nobody thinks Whysper is town, why are they voting elsewhere?

You answered it yourself.

Iā€™m currently thinking the team is Whysper/min/someone else
I really donā€™t know if i have good enough reasons for thinking this

Clownzu can give the new player excuse. City and zone not so much.

Good question?
I think pigeon could not play the game as either alignment, and thatā€™s kinda what heā€™s doing rn. Not playing the game. Full-on cruise control. If heā€™s a wolf, heā€™s perfectly bussable/?probably? not going to endgame? I feel like he could be getting pushed here by wolves regardless of his alignment.

Also a good vig shot if you ask me.

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I know I did lol
I wonā€™t know for sure until either whysper or pigeon flips but i was saying i wouldā€™ve assumed if whysper is a wolf, the other wolves go for a counterwagon, and cloned seems like the most obvious choice but it looks like pigeon is an easier push for them
meaning i think both cloned and pigeon are spewed town if whysper flips wolf
if whysper flips town then maybe pigeon actually is a wagon, but a lot of the pigeon voters also said they think whysper is wolfy so iā€™m not sure why wolves would go onto a counterwagon to town.

yeah, I can agree with that

By the way, Iā€™m not a fan of giving the new player get out of jail free card too. All they did was sheep votes d1

EBWOP: then maybe pigeon actually is a wolf*
of course heā€™s a wagon lmao

Clownzu falls under the category of cruise control as well, could go either way, but at least one or two of her posts make me think sheā€™s doing a bit more than just cruising

Cityā€™s still V, by the way. That player is so polarized that finding them as town is the easiest thing ever, and Iā€™ve consistently been able to do it across multiple games. Their level of effort doesnā€™t even matter, itā€™s all about tonal cues and a sense of humor. The minus meme that they posted on day 1 is squarely in their village range and not wolfrange.

Sheeped votes on me for the pure reason that ā€œthe alt stuff is confusingā€. Sheeped votes on leafia for who knows why.

i think the pigeon vote was the first vote clownzu didnā€™t sheep but she did give reasons for it

City is an alt. You donā€™t know if posting memes is out or in of their wolf range

Correct

nah Vulgard knows who it is and I think Marl does too
I have a suspicion on who it is but I donā€™t actually think Iā€™ve played with them before

or actually I probably did recently