[VFM] Elf Gold Rush - Game Over. Humans Win!

[Marluxion]

that was after i fake cc’d his role because i couldnt fake claim neighborizer

once again how is this relevant

[January]

Squirrel, if your slot thought marlux was suspicious, why didn’t you track him?

[Zone_Q11]

@Marluxion

the argument to support it is games like this where every single push i’ve had has been anti-town only happens when i’m town

as wolf i have tmi and it is way harder to force myself into pushes like i did d1 and d2

d2 i genuinely thought silviu did the same thing he did in duality mafia and if windward isn’t town i needed his flip to start seeing that

1. WTF does this have to do with the massclaims that you so desperately wanted, that you had to be… “unfriendly”!?
2. This is just self-meta. There is no concrete evidence that you could suddenly grow courage to do the D1 push, and your D2 push was equivalent to me “riding the waves”.

[WindwardAway]

@WindwardAway

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with choosing to track min but I’m just wondering because if a widely townread player is giving the MDet some paranoia, wouldn’t it also make sense to assume if anyone performs the factional, it would be the deepwolf because they’d “never get checked”?

@January

Squirrel, if your slot thought marlux was suspicious, why didn’t you track him?

@Squirrel2412 for when you’re back

[City]

@Marluxion

i’m town

no

[Vulgard]

@WindwardAway

why were you so convinced yesterDay that Clownzu was scum? I know you said she just seemed like she was lurking but were there any particularly strong reasons you thought she was more likely a wolf than a villager?

I think I made a pretty elaborate case on it yesterday? Summarized it’s something like “staying on the sidelines all the time and pursuing personal avenues without really pushing anything while the consensus led to a villager getting misyeeted, meaning she had no reason to engage in the main discourse and didn’t.”

I’ll admit I didn’t take “PR” into the equation. As for her being PR, I still have something to verify I’ll get to later.

@Marluxion

yeah
it’s me
and i’m town
this is horrible agenda

Honestly, considering how you handled Whysper, I’m starting to doubt that again. I know I more or less did the same thing by not opposing you, but still. I’m worried I let you misyeet a villager with no opposition and for nothing.

@Marluxion

the argument to support it is games like this where every single push i’ve had has been anti-town only happens when i’m town

as wolf i have tmi and it is way harder to force myself into pushes like i did d1 and d2

d2 i genuinely thought silviu did the same thing he did in duality mafia and if windward isn’t town i needed his flip to start seeing that

This is a decent argument, but I’m not going to use that as a 100% clearing thing.

[Marluxion]

@Zone_Q11

“unfriendly”

I was not the unfriendly one to nuclear and i stand by literally everything i said

they were acting obnoxious and i stand by muting them

if you expect me to just sit down and do nothing when i’m being harassed by another player you’re sorely mistaken

[WindwardAway]

also i don’t like that cloned is keeping his PoE wide open by saying he has paranoia on pretty much everyone, especially Squirrel, after he complained in Warrior Cats when he thought I was widening the PoE (and specifically because I tried to throw him into it).

[Marluxion]

@City

no

yes

[January]

@Marluxion

I was not the unfriendly one to nuclear and i stand by literally everything i said

You were defenitly unfriendly to them too.

[Marluxion]

@Zone_Q11

This is just self-meta.

exactly
there is no hard evidence of me being town
this is all i have

[WindwardAway]

pretty much everyone in this game has been unfriendly and it’s been a very unenjoyable part of the game because it doesn’t help to solve and just makes people feel like shit

[Marluxion]

standing up for yourself when you’re being harassed is not ‘acting unfriendly’

[January]

I didnt feel like that, only a select one or two people, and half the time it’s targeting me.

[WindwardAway]

considering all the complaints and threats to mute people? it was more than 1-2.

[Zone_Q11]

@WindwardAway

@Zone_Q11

Speaking of D2 cloned, did he case Nuclear?
I thought he was casing you. Wasn’t that the reason he didn’t want to vote Whysper?

he never cased me on D2, he just said he was paranoid I’m a wolf so he wouldn’t vote Whysper
I think he cased Nuclear at some point on D2 but don’t really remember because I think I was drunk when I saw his post lol.

…let me check real quick:

@clonedcheese

Why nuclear is ungood

@Nuclear_Rehab

Town: Vulgard, Clonedcheese, Min, Leafia, Windward, January

Mafia: City/Pigeon

starts with this

then when they see this VC

@Arete

Vote Count

Vote Target	Voted By	Votes
Leafia	EliThePsycho, thepigeonnyc	2/8
Vulgard	Marluxion, City, min	3/8
January	Clownzu, Aelin, clonedcheese	3/8
Marluxion	Vulgard, January, Leafia	3/8
Not Voting	Silviu200530, Nuclear_Rehab, WindwardAway, Zone_Q11	4

They say:

@Nuclear_Rehab

Seem to think the January wagon is kind of pure

First, why would you ever think a wagon on a townread is pure? They had no reasoning on clown and aelin and for some reason they think they’re town now?

Then they go to:

@Nuclear_Rehab

I still think mafia is some where in like Pigeon/Silviu/City/Cloned

Wait so now I’m in the scumread section?

TL;DR: They have completely unexplained reads on Aelin and Clownzu (which looks to me as TMI now that Aelin’s flipped) and is extremely inconsistent with their reads

scum if you ask me

…eh, okay. Fair enough; he did case Nuclear.

[WindwardAway]

oh but he did point out that Nuclear flipped her read on him
that’s worth considering tbh

[Marluxion]

i think zone is scum and i think cloned is scum and i’m not sure who i think the third is
we have no doctor claim correct?

[January]

Yes. There is no doctor. Anyone who is going to claim doctor is scum/throwing at this point

[Zone_Q11]

Agree to disagree, but you’re pulling a red herring by not answering my points.