You can wolfread me all you want, though, I don’t really care
When I went back through Marl’s posts to quote where he said there was a wolf in the loud players, but realized he never said that
I thought it was just me because I thought Marl specifically said it but then realized he hadn’t
If I consider that wagonomics point to cloned being town,Vulgard and min both look worse for pushing on him
And Vulgard’s case on min and cloned being w/w then looks fabricated
After D1 there wasn’t really any push on Vulgard anymore
Today the focus has mainly been on Marl and anything surrounding his slot
City is getting dragged in by association which I can understand
But very few people are taking a second look at Vulgard, except I think cloned? I said I would thoroughly solve Vulgard today and I haven’t done it yet because I was out, but I’m going to look through his ISO at lunch once I’m done with cooking.
Min and City were both saying Vulgard was scummy on D1 as I recall, and obviously Marl was the biggest pusher, but it turned into a weird focus on reading Marl and Vulgard off of Leafia’s slot, and Leafia flipped town
Then there’s min, who nobody has really said much about until today when Vulgard went through min’s ISO
I was pushing cloned, Vulgard agreed on my cloned read, but I thought min/Cloned would never be w/w and Vulgard thought they showed all the signs of being w/w after agreeing with my case on cloned and then isoing min
I looked back at min’s D1 ISO for something and remembered that they also said Vulgard seemed scummy, didn’t see too many reasons for it but on the other hand I saw a post from min regarding Leafia that I thought didn’t look so wolfy
But min has had low presence and no thread influence, so while this can be an argument toward distancing from cloned,it is also an argument that nobody would listen to min’s other reads, like on Vulgard or Leafia.
I think regardless of cloned’s alignment Vulgard/min contains at least one wolf, maybe two, so that’s why I want to look there. Just like how I thought Marl and Vul reading each other off Leafia’s slot was weird, I think Vulgard reading min off cloned might be a tell. But I’m not discounting the chance that Vulgard is town and actually right about min and cloned.
I really don’t think the wolf team is min/cloned/zone, though, and it’s actually likely not to contain more than one wolf (because I don’t really believe the min/cloned team right now and I am not sold on w!Zone yet)
The thing with Vulgard is also that I’ve had huge pocket paranoia on him since D2
But I did that to him in FAM and he was just town there
Idk I just get a weird feeling from him agreeing with my reads and saying I’m always town here
From a logical standpoint Vulgard makes sense, but I understand his logic because he’s agreeing with my logic so idk what that tells the rest of you
Btw it’s not like I can’t be convinced to abandon my gut reads
I just need enough of a reason to
I mean pigeon was being pushed because he didn’t contribute anything to the thread and he flipped town,so why is city any different
The same was said about Clownzu and she’s the vig
The only difference is someone else’s meta reads and I’m just gonna ignore those for now.
I’m here and I can post again.
We need to decide who to kill today, unless you want a “spicy EoD” where nobody really knows who to kill.
I need to keep backreading. Right now, my reads look roughly like this, ordered:
Squirrel (this is just PR)
Clownzu (Marl had a decent argument for why this is just PR, I still want to check if their play lines up with their role. So far I’ve seen her softly spew herself not MD, which is not something wolves usually do? But still putting her here for now because scumreading the uncontested PR claim isn’t something I want to do today.)
WindwardAway
January
City
Marl/Zone (there is probably a wolf here, I don’t think there are two. I think Zone’s current play is actually quite villagery for him, but his early game was questionable. Marl is in that weird limbo for me where some of the things he says are very good and I agree with them, while other things he says are really bad-faith and misrepresentative of the target(s). His play has led to lots of misyeets, and like I said before, he still creates those tunnely dualities where he either gets his yeet or gets yote. The thing Marl has going for him fmpov is that he’s unlikely to be partnered with most of the players in the lower zone (haha), while I can’t say the same for Zone - EoD1 wagonomics.)
min/clonedcheese (Roughly equal, but they have a lot of W/W interactions on day 1 from what I’ve read so far, and I mean a lot. They are also independently wolfy and neither has really improved. WWA has talked about cloned more than me, but I’ve already made my case on him as well. I’m also the only person really pushing min and have been for the whole game. I think some of their reads look fabricated / like TMI and some of their pushes also look like TMI. More than the pushes / reads of any other player whose posts I have read in-depth.)
I don’t see myself considering these slots today, I’ll only consider them in LyLo if we get there. I did read the argument for City W, but in all honesty none of the things listed were particularly AI for the player, or at least not wolf AI.