[VFM] Elf Gold Rush - Game Over. Humans Win!

I’m having a hard time seeing it despite talking about it, and despite the fact he’s been the prime misyeeter in this game. I’m honestly really uncertain despite everything I’ve said.

But I also think Zone’s been villagery today (even though I think he’s wrong on City), especially compared to his previous days, and Marl pushing on him feels like he’s pushing for another misyeet. But it’s not like he doesn’t do this as town sometimes (not even sometimes).

Marl, can you do the following?

Yeah, the way he’s approached today is why he’s higher than bottom tier of my reads and I think he’s actually villagerier than Marl if I ignore day 1. If I don’t ignore day 1, they are roughly equal. Marl had two horrendous pushes and Zone was playing in a super cautious manner I don’t expect from v!him, even factoring in the playstyle change he declared.

I say this despite thinking his City push is wrong.

Look, just like how you don’t believe City is scum, I don’t believe that City is town. So instead how about we follow cloned and Windward’s thought process, and go for Marl instead, whose death gives more information than City?

TL;DR let’s finish what Nuclear started.

Also, my break lasts about 5 more minutes, give or take.

i can’t answer that but my heart is telling me that zone is flipping wolf today
i think cloned’s train of thought both is villagery and also doesn’t really make sense

min
just hasn’t done anything since d1 that makes me tr them but i did tr them d1
min’s read on leafia does look really really bad in hindsight though

I want to kill zone today
full stop

if you townread zone please explain why
i dont want reads of why X player is wolfier than zone
please only speak up if you legitimately townread zone

I’m not gonna be around much til I get off work, which is roughly an hour before eod.

I’m mostly skimreading and havent seen the last hundred posts, but I did like zone’s logic for voting city, which makes me townlean him.

Haven’t given the slot a ton of thought, tho, just vibes.

Are you seriously only arguing for a Marl yeet because it’s an infoyeet from your POV?

Also, this post implies you townread cloned.

Please answer my question as to why.

Actually Marl might’ve gone full tunnel mode this game purely because lolwolves and nothing else.

It doesn’t have to be more complicated than that.

still just town
i will repeat this as many times as necessary

I have reasoning
I already gave it and I’ll give it again

I have no idea where my SoD3 post went but i’m just gonna paste the thing about Zone here again

Zone

So far I don’t think Zone is scum. It’s not the strongest read; I get exactly why Marl thinks he’s wolfing, and it’s because he’s not making waves and causing chaos. But given that Zone announced in signups that he was going to change his playstyle, I’m not thinking so much about how he’s playing, as I am about why he’s doing certain things and what he’s getting out of it. I do think he’s analyzing the interactions he has, because he’s been reevaluating consistently after any interactions that give him something to reconsider. I’ve only been in one game where he was a wolf, and I wolfed with him, but we didn’t rand wolf until D4 because it was Quantum Mafia and I was just trying to avoid drawing attention to myself because it was my first wolfgame. I didn’t pay so much attention to what Zone was doing in there other than that he had thread control and seemed to be mimicking his usual meta pretty well, so maybe I need to examine his slot closer, but i have some other slots I want to look at first before I get around to his.

things to add:
most of the slots I wanted to look at before Zone’s are dead, except for Vulgard, so that part of the post is a bit outdated.
I don’t particularly like Zone’s pushes today, but I’m not ruling out that they can still come from town. I want to hear more explanations from him on his reads.

it’s just, i don’t think w!zone has any reason to reevaluate in the middle of interactions when he could just tunnel and pretend to be a villager

but tell me if i’m wrong

Bruh why do you all try only when im sleeping

…what can i see this as other than scum covering for their “bad reads”

January’s… been widwly townread due to the “annoying” thi g
They should be nowhere close to the lelvel of the pr’s

I can answer “why isnt cloned scum”

  1. ive been the focus too much today
  2. the “wtf was his SoD1” case is extremely flimsy
  3. most of your min/cheese w/w argument is based on min being scummy, and its NAI for me at worst

town who hates being in this game and is stuck in this game because their reads are completely wrong

anyway you said it yourself
i’m more logical as a wolf
i’ve fucked up beyond all repair here, i just don’t want to mess it up again because i know if i’m alive in lylo i always get yeeted here