[VFM] Elf Gold Rush - Game Over. Humans Win!

the other stuff i wrote, i guess i’ll just leave for now until it becomes relevant

i still want zone and vulgard to give thoughts on each other

idk i’m losing steam in this game and spec chat is likely yelling at me to solve the game
i’m already getting yelled at in the game to solve the game so lol

@City why did you think Vulgard was pocketing me earlier?

…to be honest, the reason why I put cloned/Vul/min as my last scum is because I didn’t properly evaluate any of them. They are just the leftovers of the process of elimination.

Then I remembered what happened to cloned, and decided that he probably doesn’t belong there. Vul and min can just stay in my POE.

Is that why you voted NoElim despite there being 30+ hours left on the clock?

You all keep saying you want “more discussion time”, but when you are out of breath, when you have nothing left to say…
In the end, isn’t it just better to skip the Day, rather than drag it out for nothing?

Vote Count

Vote Target Voted By Votes
No-elimination clonedcheese, WindwardAway 2/5
Not Voting Vulgard, min, City, Squirrel2412, January, Zone_Q11 6

maybe, but even if i don’t have much else to discuss, i want other people to still be able to discuss things

ok, I get what you’re saying. but curious to know, if you think I’m a wolf, why did you listen to my reasoning on why I don’t think city is a wolf? did you never consider that I could be w/w with city and just defending my wolf partner?

How do you expect other people to discuss things if NoElim is hammered?

I did consider Windward/City/min, similar to cloned’s scumteam, but Marl TR’ed City and saved min. Marl could be wrong, of course, but I’d thought that I’d at least clear City for Marl. That, and I don’t want to touch City when Vul is still alive and can use the bloody argument that is meta to obliterate each and any future counterarguments.

I was listening to your reasoning, because I find it curious myself as to how you would paint the “scummiest town” alive as a towny. I wanted to make her look towny in the first place, so it’s a win-win situation for me in the end.

i don’t want it hammered, i just also don’t want people to get smart and decide to vote something else
someone said it’s unlikely the wolf team will out themselves by hammering NoElim so i’m just gonna assume it’s correct
if they do hammer we just vote out whoever hammered NoElim

I understand the first part. I don’t totally understand the second part but that’s on me. You’re just saying, you wanted to know what my thoughts were on City?

That makes perfect sense, actually. Thanks.

I townread him for his push yesterday, since it seemed like he genuinely believed it. It was more similar to what I expect from his townplay. Right now, since he’s pushing insane worlds like scumreading the PR, and since I townread other players more, he’s straight PoE.

We should establish a voting order tomorrow, by the way.

I actually think January’s playing today horribly if V. He’s defending me, which was surprising on its own, but he’s also pushing Windward, who I think is town.

I think they were saying that because they didn’t want their identity to be outed? They seemed annoyed about being altread, not about being townread, unless I’m misremembering.

I know Zone is… unorthodox as town, but I think this crosses the line even for him. It’s just unreasonable.

He also had that one comment about me supposedly manipulating him that felt very fake.

If you don’t want it to get hammered, then why are you raising the odds of it getting hammered?

Smart people would’ve either already discussed and given their thoughts, or simply voted NoElim to show that they have nothing left to discuss.

What you are doing is promoting the dumb sheep to hammer NoElim.

Really? Even if the hammerer is January or City?
Do you really think you can threaten the smart people who has nothing else to say, and force them to waste 30+ hours waiting to see what others have to say, only to realize at the final hour that nobody has anything else to talk about?

Yeah, pretty much. If you do well, it will make City look towny. If you fail, it will make you look sketchy. That sounds like the best deal of this entire game if you ask me.

I’m actually very concerned about this. I was certain I’d have to defend myself from everyone today. Him townreading me all of a sudden feels wrong.

It’s possible I’m overreacting to this, but still. There’s a tendency for wolves to randomly townread me when I’m getting heat. I can point to past examples of this happening, and this really reminds me of past occasions when it happened.

When two of my scumreads talk to each other in-depth about a heavy discussion in-thread instead of in their scumchat, that means I am either wrong about Vul/Windward being W/W, or you two are performing a scum theater.

Once again: I don’t need to interact with you to understand that I am getting screwed over.

Let me get this straight. You think me and Windward are W/W?

I don’t think he’s pushing me that hard, though, or at least not compared to Zone. I do think it’s funny that Zone would rather vote me out first, and right now I kinda want Zone out first, but January scumreads both of us.

I understand a pressure push on me at this point, and I understand that I’m straight PoE no matter how you look at it, because I’m not a PR and I also haven’t done anything that clears me. My reads have switched enough times that there are no flips in the game which would clear my name, so I’m not even trying to look towny. I’m just trying to hunt down the wolves.

Maybe
But my point still stands. I don’t think a wolf would make a fuss about being altread, correctly or incorrectly, if it results in a meta townread.

Because majority is 5, not 4. I said I’d hold my vote earlier but I decided that 2 votes on NoElim is ok.

So I’m dumb but did what the smart people do because I voted NoElim? I don’t really get it. I said several times I don’t want a hammer on NoElim and in fact I’m the one who brought it up first. But I really have no new takes that I didn’t already give an opinion on.

I would definitely rethink my townreads on anyone who hammers NoElim. Only exception would be people who are blissfully unaware like Gorta, but Gorta isn’t in this game, so I don’t think it’s going to be an issue.

So according to you, I’ve both made City look towny and myself look sketchy. How is that a deal? lol

More specifically, you think we’re faking this entire thing to manipulate you?